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#282135 - 11/30/04 08:03 PM Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
Jacinta K Offline
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I am fairly new to the human resource area and I have never had to deal with this before. How do you handle an employee with a personal hygiene problems? I want to make sure that I don't do or say anything wrong to cause other issues.

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#282136 - 11/30/04 09:12 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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You Wrote:
How would you address an employee with a personal hygene problem?

Dear HR:

Have you written before -- or is it yet another employee who is
smelling badly?

Unfortunately for you, you can’t just ignore the odiferous problem
and hope it will go away. It won’t.

You must confront the worker and attempt to turn around the odor
issue before the bad wafts turn to bad blood in the office. But as
The Wicked Witch of the West used to warn before going after those
red shoes: “These things must be done delicately.”

You have two options.

One is the straightforward one. Act like a Man--or a Woman, as the
case may be—and address the exuding employee directly. Take him or
her to a soundproof, confidential spot and explain that his body
odor is causing some workers discomfort on the job—no need to name
names—and be clear that the right to breathe freely is a fundamental
one on the job.

As a second resort, you could deal with the situation anonymously,
by leaving a note explaining to the employee that his or her scent
or breath or unkempt clothes are offending some workers and that all
of you would appreciate a recommitment to cleanliness. This approach
has worked for some people. Others feel it’s not dealing with the
problem in the truest sense of dealing—and I’m one of those.


Good luck to you.

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#282137 - 11/30/04 09:16 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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Can you please set in our minds a hygiene standard by offering a bit more information? What constitutes the hygiene deficiency and, more importantly, how did this person become hired in the first place? A "hygiene issue" that only comes to light after the person is hired and presumably was interviewed prior to hiring by a business unit manager is a potential problem for any employer. Please expound.

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#282138 - 12/01/04 02:41 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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I have heard that some medications can give people "body odor", a smell like they haven't taken a bath in weeks. I think you should proceed with caution, keeping the employee's feelings in mind. Talk to the employee showing them that you care, don't leave them a note...it's not very personable. Good Luck.
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#282139 - 12/01/04 04:30 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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I have just one thing to add to the last comment - I had a boss who had a bit of an odor problem. Apparently, she had undergone a nasal procedure that was supposed to correct a previous surgery, but resulted in her inability to smell. I felt worse for her than I did for the staff. Be kind.

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#282140 - 12/01/04 06:30 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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Everyone responding is speculating that the "hygiene" issue is an odor issue. Has that been verified by the oroginal poster as being the problem she is trying to address with the employee?

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#282141 - 12/08/04 08:34 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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When I was in the Army we took care of these problems ourselves in the barracks by having a GI Shower. This always took care of the problem.

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#282142 - 12/14/04 10:33 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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I can't believe some of the quips. This can be a very serious problem. And how does it happen. Very easy. If you have an employee that is bipolar and cycles, their entire personality changes. I had an employee that this occurred to. Needless to say I had several problems. The odor was extremely offensive, found out the employee was not bathing. Ultimately because of all of the issues, the employee did terminate with company. Each time I addressed,the employee felt harrassed. Was so frustrating.

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#282143 - 01/07/05 10:08 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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I am dealing with this now! I used a counselor that we have access to for advice and well as our nurse. The main this was to prefice how uncomfortable I feel about this. It should ease the harassment issue, i guess.

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#282144 - 01/07/05 10:15 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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Can somebody please outline what the hygiene "problem" is? Are we talking about body odor? If that's the case, how did the person get hired?

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#282145 - 01/26/05 05:41 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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I am also dealing with this sensitive issue. I brought the employee to my office and told the employee that it has been brought to my attention that coworkers have noticed a personal hygiene odor. I was not told if it was body odor or clothing odor. I told this person that sometimes an individual is not aware that they have one and to please take extra measures in your personal hygiene.

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#282146 - 02/04/05 02:50 AM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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A easy way to address the issue is to have a general meeting make it a lunch a learn- so its not made to make one person feel like you are focusing on them. You may want to try this video called Bankers Style which does cover basic things like hygiene, to appreance. Check out (Ad removed) The video will save you having to say what you would like to say.
Last edited by Andy Z; 02/06/05 08:52 PM.
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#282147 - 02/04/05 01:55 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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I've dealt with foot odor, bad breath, sweat smells, greasy hair and wrinkled cloths. None of these issues were evident when the employees were hired. Medication cause the foot odor, breath was a dental issue, sweat was hot weather, wrinkle cloths came about when a teller had 3 kids in a row and no time to iron. All were dealt with personally and compationately. It's not easy to tell someone they smell bad. Each case must be tailored to the individual. Some can be approached with humor, others very delicately. All issues were resolved successfully and with the exception of 1, with gratitude. I am not a fan of general meetings where the subject is discussed with everyone. Reason - it doesn't affect everyone and it is insulting to those who aren't the problem. Our CEO is a great mentor. He can fire someone and they say "thank you." He has a way of dealing with people one on one in a way that works for the employee. He taught us to keep the employee in focus and tailor our discussions - regardless of subject matter - to the needs of the employee. That's why we were able to resolve these issues. The best way to approach it is to ask yourself if you'd like to know if this was your problem? If so, how would you like to be told?

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#282148 - 02/04/05 03:14 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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don't leave them a note...




The above message is the only correct statement posted here. People are missing the point: This is a health and safety issue which tips the protective measures in favor of the otherwise at-will-employed employee.

These posts indicate there is way too much informal, seat-of-the-pants handling and speculation about how a well-managed intervention should occur in what is obviously a federally governed health matter. Too many posters have said here, "it was brought to my attention"; or, "co-workers have noticed." This indicates that multiple employees have been allowed to discuss this health issue involving an individual employee. Supervisors must be genuinely careful not to mishandle the intervention.

Any type of situation like this must immediately involve a professional HR person, and the matter must be handled with the utmost dignity and confidentiality to protect all parties -- including the supervisor's protecting the interest of the institution by not revealing, discussing or joking about the matter, or allowing any open discussion about the affected employee's health matter.

A person is subjected to workplace harassment if the person is subjected to repeated behavior, other than behavior amounting to sexual harassment, by a person, including the person's employer, co-worker, or group of co-workers, of the person that is a) unwelcome and unsolicited; and b) the person considers to be offensive, intimidating, humiliating, or threatening; and c) a reasonable person would consider the treatment to be offensive, humiliating, intimidating, or threatening.

Writing or leaving a note, allowing open co-worker discussion and laughter directed at the affected employee; these are all indicators of mishandling the intervention and the potential for being struck by a train. When you've been struck once, you learn not to cross the tracks.

If an employee's condition is health-related and the employee was hired even after using the in-place background screening, full-background investigation process, then this is a workplace health and safety matter that needs to involve your professionals.

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#282149 - 02/04/05 05:35 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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A easy way to address the issue is to have a general meeting make it a lunch a learn- so its not made to make one person feel like you are focusing on them. You may want to try this video called XXX which does cover basic things like hygiene, to appreance. Check out YYY The video will save you having to say what you would like to say.




I completely disagree. Why should all employees have to waste their time because of one employee's problem? It upsets me when everyone gets punished for one person's problem. The video might be a great idea, when a person is first hired, or if it has become a major problem with a number of employees. But if the problem exists because of one person's bad hygiene, don't make all the employees suffer. Often the empoyee that you are hoping will get the idea, doesn't when items are in a group setting.
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#282150 - 02/04/05 09:16 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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Why should all employees have to waste their time


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#282151 - 02/06/05 02:10 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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I agree with Jennifer. I once saw a supervisor haul her entire staff in to "chat" about coming in late. There was only one offender - that is until the "chat". After that brilliant discussion, each and every one of her staff came in late - including the one that was ALWAYS late. They got their point across and she learned a valuable lesson, but she never got their cooperation back. They considered her a lousy manager - unable to handle the hard stuff and she lost their respect. One wrong move and kill a career.

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#282152 - 03/01/05 07:42 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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i'm currently dealing with this issue. a few months ago I issued a warning to the entire office about the cleanliness of work area and i also rolled in a part about personal hygiene. they were both a concern. i think the employee got the hint because he really freshened up. unfortunetly the odor is back and others are complaining. so now i'm going to have to isolate the group to one. he will then know that i was referring to him, which is not good.

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#282153 - 03/01/05 09:09 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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How do you handle an employee with a personal hygiene problems?




Get the employee to start eating "White-out" and wait.
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#282154 - 03/01/05 11:26 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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How do you handle an employee with a personal hygiene problems?




Get the employee to start eating "White-out" and wait.




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#282155 - 03/02/05 02:12 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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Oh Z, that was really sick!
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#282156 - 03/31/05 01:38 AM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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can u put back the "Ad removed"? i have hygiene problems: sorry.

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#282157 - 08/03/06 07:49 PM Re: Employee with Personal Hygiene problems
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Jay-Risk is absolutely right. This should be handled professionally and not be a subject for office fodder. I would want to be told as soon as possible. (If it is me, please say so, cause I don't smell it! )

This problem came up in my office about 20 years ago. The guy was a pig, it was hygiene all the way. The supervisor did nothing, HR did nothing, so we all got together and bought him an entire set of personal grooming items. We put it on his chair when he was on a break and then we all took a break when he came back so he wouldn't be embarrassed in front of us.

Guess what, he went to HR and we all got in trouble.
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