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#1035573 - 09/05/08 04:46 PM Economic News
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of course j will try to denounce the gini index but there is no doubt that as the rich get richer, those funds that they are soaking up lead to people on the bottom losing jobs. these people should be rewarded for their hard work! even if it is to the detriment of huge numbers of people in our nation!

please, vote for a continuation of gop economic policies.
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#1035585 - 09/05/08 04:51 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Since Bush has been President, the unemployment rate has remained under 6.3% and averaged 5.2% (In Clinton's eight years it remained under 7.3% and also averaged 5.2%.)



wow, we are in a tight spot!

Bush has only done as well as Clinton..............
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#1035587 - 09/05/08 04:51 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Ron, answer me this. According to Obamanomics, the answer is taxing businesses. How does this stop companies from leaving the country? How does it stop companies from passing the new taxes on to the consumer?

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#1035589 - 09/05/08 04:52 PM Re: Economic News Pale Rider
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of course he has.
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#1035596 - 09/05/08 04:55 PM Re: Economic News Pale Rider
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Bush has only done as well as Clinton

market performance says that you are wrong. bf, amlf and vacuous think that you are right. ya'll must not be investors.

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#1035601 - 09/05/08 04:58 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Experience
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Bush has only done as well as Clinton

market performance says that you are wrong. bf, amlf and vacuous think that you are right. ya'll must not be investors.

Nah, I am just far more prosperous these last 8 years, last 4 in particular, than I ever was during the 1990's, when I almost went bankrupt.

Not one tax cut has hurt me one bit, for a punk who used to watch warring drug clans stash crack coke in the wheels of his 1978 VW Beetle when the cops showed up.
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#1035604 - 09/05/08 04:59 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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my misunderestimate of the thread, I thought the primary issue was the unemployment rate..............

the past 8 years have been so much better in light of other factors..........
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#1035622 - 09/05/08 05:09 PM Re: Economic News Pale Rider
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Ahhh, the classic "rich people are the cause of poverty" argument. Got syllogism?

FYI, I am nowhere near rich.
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#1035632 - 09/05/08 05:18 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Experience
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Bush has only done as well as Clinton

market performance says that you are wrong. bf, amlf and vacuous think that you are right. ya'll must not be investors.


So then you posted this unemployment article for no reason, since the real issue is the stock market?

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#1035637 - 09/05/08 05:21 PM Re: Economic News Pale Rider
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Originally Posted By: Pale Rider
Since Bush has been President, the unemployment rate has remained under 6.3% and averaged 5.2% (In Clinton's eight years it remained under 7.3% and also averaged 5.2%.)



wow, we are in a tight spot!

Bush has only done as well as Clinton..............


Nice use of statistics, here.

A few details PR would prefer that you didn't know:

The unemployment rate of over 7% during Clinton's term was the rate he inherited from his predecessor, the first George Bush

Unemployment fell EVERY YEAR under Clinton until it reached 3.9% for each of the last four months of 2000!

That was the unemployment history that Bush inherited. Now it is all the way up to 6.1%.

But PR thinks that Bush taking a low unemployment rate and having it go up is doing "as well" as taking a high unemployment rate and bringing it down as Clinton did!

Using averages to show that up is the same as down?

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#1035644 - 09/05/08 05:28 PM Re: Economic News Yossarian
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ok, so Bush and by extension McCain and the GOP were responsible for the hike in oil prices that led to the hike in prices across the board that led to prices going up and companies raising prices and cutting workers? (The nearby GM plant in Janesville closing comes to mind.) Oh, I forgot...which candidate is it that wants to start drilling at home to stop our dependency on foreign oil while we step up development of alternative fuels?
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#1035648 - 09/05/08 05:31 PM Re: Economic News Truffle Royale
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ok, so Bush and by extension McCain and the GOP were responsible for the hike in oil prices that led to the hike in prices across the board that led to prices going up and companies raising prices and cutting workers? (The nearby GM plant in Janesville closing comes to mind.)


Yes, indeed. The GOP illuminati controls worldwide consumption and production of oil, created Hurricane Katrina, and are responsible for refusing to allow drilling on American soil again. Wait a second.... I thought God alone controlled the hurricanes, OPEC controlled much of the worldwide production of oil, and the democrats were the ones who for years now have insisted that we not drill our own oil.

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#1035654 - 09/05/08 05:34 PM Re: Economic News TheManofSteel
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Nah, I am just far more prosperous these last 8 years, last 4 in particular, than I ever was during the 1990's, when I almost went bankrupt.

economics lie! trust my synecdoche, people!

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#1035655 - 09/05/08 05:35 PM Re: Economic News GuitarDude
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Ahhh, the classic "rich people are the cause of poverty" argument. Got syllogism?

got gini index?

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#1035656 - 09/05/08 05:36 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Got milk?

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#1035661 - 09/05/08 05:36 PM Re: Economic News B_F
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If you and TR want to discuss drilling for oil why don't you start your own thread instead of hijacking this one?

This one is about unemployment and whether unemployment going up is the same as unemployment going down.

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#1035663 - 09/05/08 05:37 PM Re: Economic News straw
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Originally Posted By: straw
Originally Posted By: Experience
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Bush has only done as well as Clinton

market performance says that you are wrong. bf, amlf and vacuous think that you are right. ya'll must not be investors.


So then you posted this unemployment article for no reason, since the real issue is the stock market?

pale posted honest numbers, didn't he?

talk about the market. talk about unemployment. four more years of these policies, please!

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#1035666 - 09/05/08 05:39 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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i really fail to see how you guys continually blame presidents for things they have no real control over. In fact, it is Bush's fault you all have credit card debt, it's his fault people took out loans they couldn't afford to pay back, it's his fault that lendors made bad loans. Yep he is the devil and he is controlling everything from behind the scenes.
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#1035668 - 09/05/08 05:39 PM Re: Economic News Yossarian
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My post was a direct response to your's regarding unemployment numbers, Yoss. I was trying to point out an non-party controlled reason why there's been a huge loss of jobs, at least here in my neck of the woods.

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#1035671 - 09/05/08 05:41 PM Re: Economic News X O
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Originally Posted By: Xo Xo Xodus
i really fail to see how you guys continually blame presidents for things they have no real control over. In fact, it is Bush's fault you all have credit card debt, it's his fault people took out loans they couldn't afford to pay back, it's his fault that lendors made bad loans. Yep he is the devil and he is controlling everything from behind the scenes.

no control over?

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#1035673 - 09/05/08 05:43 PM Re: Economic News Truffle Royale
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Originally Posted By: Truffle Royale
My post was a direct response to your's regarding unemployment numbers, Yoss. I was trying to point out an non-party controlled reason why there's been a huge loss of jobs, at least here in my neck of the woods.

the reason that that company failed has nothing to do with the policies of the chief executive.

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#1035676 - 09/05/08 05:45 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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real control over. he has no control over the moves the fed made the last 10 years. lending regulations may have been loosened but nobody made those lenders make the bad loans. nobody made the american public over spend the last decade. jobs being lost are because companies made bad decisions. If you are unemployed mow a friggin yard. we have help wanted signs everywhere here, get off your ass and get a job.
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#1035679 - 09/05/08 05:45 PM Re: Economic News Truffle Royale
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Originally Posted By: Truffle Royale
My post was a direct response to your's regarding unemployment numbers, Yoss. I was trying to point out an non-party controlled reason why there's been a huge loss of jobs, at least here in my neck of the woods.


Your post had nothing do do with mine. You said "so Bush and by extension McCain and the GOP were responsible for the hike in oil prices that led to the hike in prices across the board that led to prices going up and companies raising prices and cutting workers?" while my post simply addressed the question of whether unemployment going up was the same as unemployment going down. I said nothing about oil or who was responsible for current unemployment.

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#1035680 - 09/05/08 05:46 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Experience
Originally Posted By: Truffle Royale
My post was a direct response to your's regarding unemployment numbers, Yoss. I was trying to point out an non-party controlled reason why there's been a huge loss of jobs, at least here in my neck of the woods.

the reason that that company failed has nothing to do with the policies of the chief executive.


he has no policies that aren't congress's policies first. i dont see you railing on the legislature...
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#1035684 - 09/05/08 05:48 PM Re: Economic News X O
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shooting from the hip, xo? mccain and w would be proud.

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