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#1962363 - 09/16/14 07:30 PM
Re: Scotland
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According to the Union Jack's Wikipedia page: Wales had no explicit recognition in the Union Jack as it had been a part of the Kingdom of England since being annexed by Edward I of England in 1282 and its full integration by the Laws in Wales Acts 1535–1542, and was therefore represented by the flag of England. my understanding was they were promised representation on the flag, which was later rescinded by England. Which is why, forever more, that when someone promises and backs out, they are considered to have "welshed" on their word.
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#1962369 - 09/16/14 07:40 PM
Re: Scotland
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I believe ed was making a pun on Jack. And yes, the Union Jack has St Andrew's saltire, which is white on blue. It also has the Fitzgerald saltire, red on white, which the English have been pretending is St. Patrick's saltire. The third part is St George's cross. Puns are not as funny while in the mist of a BSA validation and there is an anti-drinking rule in this bank. I haven't the foggiest idea what that would be like.
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#1962386 - 09/16/14 08:22 PM
Re: Scotland
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Ok, everybdy that just looked up the etemolygy of "Welsh" raise your hand.... ::puts on nerd glasses:: Off topic but still interesting, I saw a show on Saturday that was the Orgin of Slang in the US (or something like that). "Welshing on a bet" was one of the slang terms. It was a pretty intersting. ::takes off nerd glasses and put on just normal glasses:: Continue....
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#1962393 - 09/16/14 08:51 PM
Re: Scotland
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I believe ed was making a pun on Jack. And yes, the Union Jack has St Andrew's saltire, which is white on blue. It also has the Fitzgerald saltire, red on white, which the English have been pretending is St. Patrick's saltire. The third part is St George's cross. Puns are not as funny while in the mist of a BSA validation and there is an anti-drinking rule in this bank. I haven't the foggiest idea what that would be like. Thanks I was waiting for that pun.
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#1962400 - 09/16/14 09:17 PM
Re: Scotland
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Ok, everybdy that just looked up the etemolygy of "Welsh" raise your hand.... ::puts on nerd glasses:: Off topic but still interesting, I saw a show on Saturday that was the Orgin of Slang in the US (or something like that). "Welshing on a bet" was one of the slang terms. It was a pretty intersting. ::takes off nerd glasses and put on just normal glasses:: Continue.... ::Picks up nerd glasses:: And it was not particularly flattering to the Welsh people! ::Hands back nerd glasses::
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#1962424 - 09/17/14 02:23 AM
Re: Scotland
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I thought i read where the patron saint of each of the 4 was represented on their flag...but that could be way off. The Union Jack only represents England, Scotland and Ireland. The Welsh flag (a red dragon on a white and green background) has no part in the Union Jack, and neither does the flag of St. David (which is black and gold.) Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland. NOT the Republic of Ireland.
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#1962471 - 09/17/14 01:40 PM
Re: Scotland
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In theory it was part of the union jack as it is part of the England side. Wales was not considered any different from England when the Union Jack was designed.
Wales and England became united in 1563 as one nation. For all intents and purposes Wales and England are not distinguishable from one another.
The Welsh dragon was created AFTER England and Wales were joined as one country. Scotland joined England to be called Great Britain.
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#1962805 - 09/18/14 02:14 PM
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So, what do the polls say? What's the general best guess as to how Scotland votes?
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#1962809 - 09/18/14 02:23 PM
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So, what do the polls say? What's the general best guess as to how Scotland votes? Tak or Nie
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#1962838 - 09/18/14 03:28 PM
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Last night the news said it was basically a dead heat between the projected yes and no votes (when's the vote)?
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#1962845 - 09/18/14 03:36 PM
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0. When is the vote? The polls open nationwide at 7 a.m. Thursday and close at 10 p.m. (2 a.m. to 5 p.m. in Boston time). An astonishing 97 percent of Scotland’s eligible voters, 4.2 million people from 16 years old and up, have registered. The binding result is expected by early Friday morning. and a cool summary http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/20...gHJO/story.html
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#1962873 - 09/18/14 04:22 PM
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Ted....that made me laugh.
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#1962927 - 09/18/14 06:00 PM
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Why would the US need to build them a submarine base? Isn't the entire country an island with plenty of water for such things?
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#1962948 - 09/18/14 06:38 PM
Re: Scotland
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Who said the US would build Scotland a submarine base?
Scotland has a submarine base, if Scotland vote for independence, the Royal Navy, which uses the base now, may not be able to use it in the future.
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#1962952 - 09/18/14 06:51 PM
Re: Scotland
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it is a base to house the sumarines of the Royal Navy - currently housed in Scotland. The Boston Globe article linked above said they would need to build a new base outside of Scotland or possibly store with an ally, such as the US. 2. What will happen to Britain’s nuclear submarines, which are based in Scotland?
Unclear. The four Trident submarines, based at Faslane near Glasgow, eventually will have to leave, say Scottish government leaders, who want a nuclear-free country. British defense officials have said that’s what’s left of the United Kingdom – England, Wales, and Northern Ireland – might have to ask the United States to provide a base.
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#1962976 - 09/18/14 07:31 PM
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The Royal Navy does have a working submarine base in Devonport, which houses 4 submarines currently. Clyde (which is in Scotland) does host the 6 active nuclear submarines and Rosyth (also in Scotland) houses the submarines due to be decommissioned.
That said, it is pure speculation that the Royal Navy would ask the United States to build them another submarine base. You could just as easily substitute any other ally or NATO member.
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#1963097 - 09/19/14 06:09 AM
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Scotland votes No to Independence
NO 55.42 percent YES 44.58
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#1963133 - 09/19/14 02:06 PM
Re: Scotland
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"if it's not Scottish, it's [censored]"
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