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#2246733 - 12/18/20 06:20 PM The Rona vaccine
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
In old BOL days, i'd have done a poll, but since those no longer work, just curious if anyone is planning on getting the vaccine when it is available. not looking for this to become political or to become a soapbox about how it is 5G marking for tracking people. much less Bill Gate's evil plan to take over the world.

I plan on getting when available.
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#2246735 - 12/18/20 06:26 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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As of right now.....I do not plan on getting it right away when it becomes available.

I'm not anti-vaccine by any means, my only concerns are long term effects. How do you know what these could possibly be (if any)...

Considering it won't be available to the general public for a few months though, my mind could possibly be changed. We will see....

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#2246736 - 12/18/20 06:37 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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In my state, financial institution employees would be eligible in Tier 2. I have had more than one client remove their mask while sitting across the desk from me. Whether or not you think the mask is efficient or not is irrelevant at this point, as we have a state mandate, as well as orders from our CEO. I plan to get the vaccine once they get to Tier 2.
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#2246740 - 12/18/20 07:07 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I'll get it as soon as I can once it's widely available. I'm back office, and have been lucky enough to be able to almost exclusively work from home, so I wouldn't want to take a more exposed person's dose even if possibly able to at tier 2 (I haven't checked the specific requirements).

I have a lot to say about people not taking recommended vaccinations (or wearing a mask) that protect society, including vulnerable populations unable to take it themselves, due to risks to their individual well being. I'll just leave it at that though.

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#2246743 - 12/18/20 07:30 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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Yes I want it as soon as i can. And I'll make sure my 71 year old mother gets it too as soon as she's able. It's the only way this pandemic will slow down to something manageable. The first clinical trial patients were given the vaccine in January and February and thus far the serious side effects are rare and have happened immediately after injection.

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#2246748 - 12/18/20 08:31 PM Re: The Rona vaccine CompliantOkie
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ASAP, but someone's answer might be dependent on how old they are.
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#2246750 - 12/18/20 09:26 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I am not certain where I fall in the spectrum of availability but I am on the lower risk end of things both for myself and who I interact with. As such, even if I could get the vaccine I would want to be further down the line to make sure higher risk folks get the opportunities first.
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#2246755 - 12/18/20 10:15 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I will not be the first, but I do plan an getting it.
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#2246759 - 12/21/20 01:35 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I will get it whenever I'm told it's my turn. I'm definitely for it but, as others have said, know there are others out there at greater risk than I am and don't mind waiting for that reason.

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#2246760 - 12/21/20 01:41 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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My husband and I will receive the vaccine when it becomes available to us. Luckily I can also work from home (and he's retired).
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#2246764 - 12/21/20 02:30 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I am generally wary of most things that are rushed (and pushed by the Government), however I will get the vaccine. It really boils down to "what other options do we have?" Plus by the time I get it there would have been plenty of guinea pigs ….
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#2246766 - 12/21/20 02:45 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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FINALLY ABOVE the gnat line
I'm taking a wait and see approach. I had such a bad reaction to the flu shot last year that it has made me wary. Will most likely be discussing with my Dr.
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#2246770 - 12/21/20 03:25 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I am not planning on getting it. Too many uncertainties.
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#2246781 - 12/21/20 06:41 PM Re: The Rona vaccine waldensouth
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Originally Posted by waldensouth
Will most likely be discussing with my Dr.


as you should, because relying on medical professional's advice is how we will get past this.

not listening to politicians or social media doctors or some's cousin's brother's ex-sister-in-law's former high school classmate that was in prison with someone who knows things like this are an evil plot to take over the world!
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#2246783 - 12/21/20 06:45 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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On my doctor's advice, I am waiting a bit.
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#2246784 - 12/21/20 06:55 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I am getting it as soon as possible and then I am getting on an airplane and getting out of the country. I have had enough of this sitting at home.
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#2246785 - 12/21/20 07:03 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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But you're coming back - right Randy?
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#2246786 - 12/21/20 07:12 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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#2246795 - 12/21/20 08:33 PM Re: The Rona vaccine rlcarey
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I do not plan on getting it.

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#2246796 - 12/21/20 08:45 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I plan on getting it as soon as possible. By the time we get it, my concerns over immediate side effects will be quelled. Long term, half the stuff we eat and drink have more dangerous side effects than a drug studied and approved by the smartest minds in the country in my opinion.

Anyways, side question.... if you choose not to get it, but your employer mandates it, what are you going to do?

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#2246799 - 12/21/20 09:21 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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During the H1N1 outbreak, the Labor Department had this to say: an employee who refuses vaccination because of a reasonable belief that he or she has a medical condition that creates a real danger of serious illness or death (such as serious reaction to the vaccine) may be protected under Section 11(c) of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 pertaining to whistle blower rights.
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#2246804 - 12/21/20 10:18 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I won't be getting the rona vaccine, at least not initially. Dr. doesn't want me to get my tetanus shot because of a bad side effect that I get so I will wait and see how this all goes.
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#2246846 - 12/22/20 09:20 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I will get as soon as I'm eligible (not in the first tiers). My wife has several high risk factors including diabetes and asthma, so she will be getting it also.
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#2246855 - 12/22/20 11:54 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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#2246873 - 12/23/20 04:08 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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My D-I-L won't let me visit my grandkid without proof of a negative Covid test, so if getting the vaccine will stop the ridiculousness I will get the vaccine.

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#2246904 - 12/24/20 01:00 AM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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Considering that the infection fatality rate is so low (I've read under 1%) I am not inclined to get the vaccine. My fear is that I have never had a flu vaccine, or any other vaccine for that matter, other than those given in childhood so I have no idea how my body might react now that I am over 60. I don't get the flu despite being exposed to people that do get it. I'm interested to see what happens as the vaccine is administered. According to the FDA, one of the long term side effects is Guillian Barre syndrome, brain swelling, muscle weakness and paralysis, convulsions and seizures, stroke, narcolepsy, shock, heart attack, autoimmune disease, arthritis and joint pain, and death. So not interested.

I formally studied holistic nutrition for 6 years and will continue nutritional and oxidative support to keep healthy. I stay away from people, wash my hands, and wear a mask in public.

Something that I think is interesting is that some people assume that if they are vaccinated they don't have to continue with protective measures. Fauci has acknowledged that the vaccine may prevent symptoms, but will not block spread of the virus. So going back to work we can expect to have to continue with masks, etc.

Something may change my mind in the future, but for now, it's a definite NO for me.
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#2246917 - 12/24/20 04:22 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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#2246933 - 12/24/20 06:36 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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TryingtoComply, the CDC site indicates that, "In 1976, there was a small increased risk of GBS after swine flu vaccination..." "The increased risk was approximately one additional case of GBS for every 100,000 people who got the swine flu vaccine." and "Studies suggest that it is more likely that a person will get GBS after getting the flu than after vaccination. It is important to keep in mind that severe illness and death are associated with flu, and getting vaccinated is the best way to prevent flu infection and its complications."

I'm not trying to sway your opinion as we can each have our own. But it's important to note that none of us are qualified in medical studies to offer too many opinions as fact. The best real statement I can make is that the vaccines have gone thru clinical trials and those are limited, even though they were scientific. Nobody knows the long term effect until we get long term. But we can each make our own choices based on the best information we have.
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#2246970 - 12/28/20 08:31 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I am part of the higher-risk group, so I will be getting the vaccination as soon as it's available for my tier group.
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#2246996 - 12/29/20 07:35 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I plan on getting the vaccine.
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#2247021 - 12/30/20 07:48 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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Do not plan on getting the vaccine.
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#2247023 - 12/30/20 08:28 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I can see the benefits of the vaccine. I'm a fan of it. I can also see the hazards of it, therefore, I don't support it. However, with all of that said I am on the fence, although generally supportive of getting or not getting it.

I plan on lying. Feel great with it, although I may or may not have it.
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#2247042 - 12/30/20 09:54 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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Norman, you running for office?
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#2247048 - 12/31/20 01:58 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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#2247084 - 01/01/21 12:43 AM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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#2248032 - 01/22/21 07:00 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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#2248037 - 01/22/21 07:12 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I do not plan on getting the vaccine.

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#2248043 - 01/22/21 08:06 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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To each his own - but if enough people refuse we will never get rid of this disease. We are going to have a hard enough time as it is because the longer we go the more variants it will produce and God help us when one of those variants is not only more contagious, but is also more deadly.
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#2248045 - 01/22/21 08:17 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I just saw today that Boris Johnson announced that data is starting to show that the UK variant is more deadly than the original virus.

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#2248079 - 01/25/21 03:51 PM Re: The Rona vaccine rlcarey
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Originally Posted by rlcarey
To each his own - but if enough people refuse we will never get rid of this disease. We are going to have a hard enough time as it is because the longer we go the more variants it will produce and God help us when one of those variants is not only more contagious, but is also more deadly.

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#2248120 - 01/25/21 08:02 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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Scheduled to get the vaccine and microchip implant this Thursday. Hoping they don't run us through a loading chute and brand us.
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#2248122 - 01/25/21 08:22 PM Re: The Rona vaccine RVFlyboy
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I will get as soon as I'm eligible (not in the first tiers). My wife has several high risk factors including diabetes and asthma, so she will be getting it also.

Funny, the day I posted this, my wife was diagnosed positive for COVID. Fortunately, her symptoms wound up being fairly mild. Definitely a blessing. I continued and still continue to test negative for the virus and negative for antibodies.
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#2248123 - 01/25/21 08:23 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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So glad Lynne had a mild case, Jim - and you continue to test negative.
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#2248148 - 01/26/21 02:24 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I have recently recovered from covid and had pretty serious symptoms. Prior to being positive, I was unsure about the vaccine however, after experiencing this first hand, it is not something I care to repeat so when eligible, I will get the vaccine.
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#2248153 - 01/26/21 02:57 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I had a similar situation, RV. My wife and my oldest son had COVID - thankfully both were mild. My daughter and I tested negative on 3 different doctor visits. Very strange how this disease can hit and miss like that.
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#2248154 - 01/26/21 02:58 PM Re: The Rona vaccine Soccer
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I have recently recovered from covid and had pretty serious symptoms. Prior to being positive, I was unsure about the vaccine however, after experiencing this first hand, it is not something I care to repeat so when eligible, I will get the vaccine.


Sorry you had a rough go of it - but certainly glad you've recovered. smile
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#2248198 - 01/26/21 09:11 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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I still do not plan on getting the vaccine - at least not right away when it becomes available to me. My very best friend is a NICU nurse and when I asked her what her thoughts were, she stated she would not be getting it. I am leery of it because of the quickness. Today she shared an article on FB about the side effect of masses on the breast. A friend of hers is now having to have biopsies due to these masses and has been in extreme pain. Hopefully they are not cancerous. I'm providing the link not as a deterrent, just as extra information. I would never tell anyone not to get it, especially those of you who have had Covid. I've had multiple friends who have had it and my brother also had it, my husband and I have either been very lucky or had it and never knew we had it. It is an all around scary situation we find ourselves in. frown

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#2248204 - 01/26/21 09:23 PM Re: The Rona vaccine Bankwoman1
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My wife had a history of breast cancer in her family and her doctor recommended her to take Tamoxifen. The side effects were not great so we decided not to have her on this preventative medicine. She ended up getting breast cancer and after her mastectomy she started taking----Tamoxifen for three years. It prevented it from coming back and twelve years later, she is still cancer free. We learned a valuable lesson not to be afraid of "side effects". The more people that get the vaccine, the more things will pop up. But I like the odds so far of no major issues.
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#2248205 - 01/26/21 09:24 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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That is not what that article says and who gets their information from facebook anyway? That article is telling radiologists to be aware that a COVID vaccine can cause enlarged or swollen lymph nodes in the breasts and not to confuse that with more serious conditions and that they should retest in 4-12 weeks before getting too excited. If they are doing biopsis without waiting then that lady has some very poor doctors or the imaging shows something totally different. The vaccine is not going to give you cancer in a matter of weeks.
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#2248206 - 01/26/21 09:30 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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My friend, who is a nurse and has been for over 20 years posted the information. She has a good friend who this happened to and has to get a biopsy on the 28th and is scared to death. It wasn't just fly by night information I found on FB. I trust my friend thoroughly as we are cousins and best friends. Again - it was not intended as a deterrent - I just wanted to share information that my friend provided me. Do with it as you want....

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#2248403 - 01/29/21 08:14 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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My husband and I got the Pfizer vaccine last Monday and can't wait for the second dose scheduled for mid-February. Maybe it's the collection of dead friends that convinced us?
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#2248404 - 01/29/21 08:23 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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We have a friend who's a priest that participated in the one of the Moderna clinical trials last summer. He just found out he got the actual vaccine and is quite happy about it. Here's his FB post with a lot of detail:
As you make decisions when your group comes up, I offer these perspectives of the science of the vaccine study- and its safety. Undoubtedly you will hear about a few people who have had serious reactions (that which is debilitating). The overwhelming number of people getting the vaccine have "normal" reactions like a headache, fever, muscle aches, feeling tired, etc. Those normal reactions are your immune system reacting to the vaccine and building antibodies.
There is a ton of misinformation going around so be discerning on where the info is coming from and the motives behind it. Obviously this is a personal choice- but I will say that in the Moderna study of those who received the vaccine and still caught covid- 100% of them did not have severe illness or hospitalization. The vaccine is 95% effective against preventing infection- and for those who are infected the course of the disease is mild.
The group of study participants I am in will continue with the study for another 18 months. Here is what is going on in the study and how they look for data:
- I'm in a group of 30,000 people- 1/2 who got the vaccine and 1/2 who didn't. (Everyone now has the opportunity to be unblinded and receive the vaccine if they didn't.)
-The study will determine a number of things: A) efficacy of the vaccine B) safety- that is is the vaccine safe and doesn't cause severe reactions, C) Side-effects- what if any side effects happen, etc.
Here is what the study has been like so far.
-the first step was a health assessment and determination of risk as to COVID. The study had to get people of many age groups, ethnic backgrounds and pre-existing conditions.
- the second step was blood tests and further health history and assessment. Then the first dosage was given.
-the next 7 days you fill out a health form each day with details of how you are responding to the vaccine.
-Every week for 8 weeks you talk with a nurse and go over a detailed questionnaire of symptoms, etc.
-if you are exposed to covid or show any symptoms- you report in immediately and more assessment and follow up happens.
-every four weeks you go in to see a doctor and nurse, have a blood test, and follow up assessments.
- at week four you get the second dosage of the vaccine (or saline) you follow the same protocol as before.
-after 8 weeks you enter a slightly different pattern. You fill out a questionnaire once a week and have a conversation with a nurse every 2-4 weeks. Blood tests are done at 4 months, 8 months and 12 months out from the initial dosage.
I thought you might appreciate hearing about the study as you way getting the vaccine or not. I'm not going to debate the vaccine here- just offering what the studies look at. There is a LOT of research and data- and the structures of the study are well supported.
I signed up as this is one of the best paths toward getting out of this mess in my mind. It has some risks, but the greater risk is to society if we don't have some solutions.
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#2248419 - 01/29/21 10:29 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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What they often don't mention in these clinical trials is that they eliminate candidates who don't meet certain health criteria which can really alter the results.

That said, can someone tell me the difference from getting Covid and developing the antibodies and getting the vaccine and developing the antibodies, besides the idea that would be milder symptoms for some people?
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#2248422 - 01/29/21 10:39 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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You don't have to risk catching covid and dying by taking the vaccine. Or.....your risks of catching covid and dying are greatly reduced.
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#2248424 - 01/29/21 10:51 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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Rock......i don't claim to know what they do or don't do in these trials....but i will point out that in HMS Pippii's post above, from the priest....it says "The study had to get people of many age groups, ethnic backgrounds and pre-existing conditions." That doesn't make it sound like they're weeding out people who are unhealthy and might not give them the results they want.
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#2248437 - 01/30/21 04:39 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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Several co-workers have had COVID and I asked one of them the other day if he was donating plasma. He said no, his window is closed. I asked about the window. He said that after 3 months, you don't have any (or enough) useful antibodies in your blood anymore so those who have recovered from COVID can only date for that short period right after they have had it. (Or this is what he was told).

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#2248458 - 02/01/21 03:30 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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As someone who is currently recovering from Covid - I would have done just about anything not to have gotten this. It lingers and full recovery takes a very long time. I was/am not in the tier that they are currently giving vaccinations to . They gave me no medicine for this and just told be me to take Vitamins, C, D, Zinc and drink lots of fluids. Apparently there is nothing they can do unless you are at death's door.
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#2248460 - 02/01/21 03:44 PM Re: The Rona vaccine waldensouth
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Originally Posted by waldensouth
As someone who is currently recovering from Covid - I would have done just about anything not to have gotten this. It lingers and full recovery takes a very long time. I was/am not in the tier that they are currently giving vaccinations to . They gave me no medicine for this and just told be me to take Vitamins, C, D, Zinc and drink lots of fluids. Apparently there is nothing they can do unless you are at death's door.


I'm glad you are starting to feel better, I can attest, it's a rough ride. I recovered pretty quickly, my husband not so much.
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#2248463 - 02/01/21 04:06 PM Re: The Rona vaccine HappyGilmore
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HMS Pippii thanks for sharing your friends insights about Moderna vaccine and if you get the chance thank him from me for his selflessness in participating in the clinical trials. I am going to take his insights to heart. My 82 year old mother took her first Covid shot and had injection sight soreness, that's it. She also survived Covid PTL.

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