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#617043 - 09/22/06 04:38 PM CSI Season Premier...
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Did anyone else watch last night. I was kinda like wow this is a boring episode for the season premier and wondered why they solved the cases so fast (and with such boredom) with 15 mintues left. But what an awesome ending to the show.

One thing that I'm not sure of though is did Katherine get sexually assaulted or was she doing that stuff to herself to make it appear like she did? Like why did she cut herself and wipe the blood around the sink drain?
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#617044 - 09/22/06 04:45 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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She was slipped a date rape drug. She did not cut herself. She was doing her own rape kit. She scraped under her fingernails and saved the scrapings in a shower cap; she wiped the sink for any DNA the guy might have left; she inserted and removed a tampon to get any sperm sample she could.

I was screaming at the TV, "go to a hospital"! She needed to get a blood test to see what drug she was given. Also to be checked, have an independent rape kit taken, and tested for AIDS or STDs.

From next week's coming attractions, it seems to me she might have a stalker, who drugs her, rapes her, bashes her car and takes her kid.
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#617045 - 09/22/06 04:51 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Ah - that makes sense. Ya know the whole time I am thinking what the heck is she doing to herself?!?! I wasn't even thinking along the lines of doing her own rape kit. Makes perfect sense now though

I too was wondering if she was raped why the heck she wasn't going to a hospital - but at that point I wasn't even for sure she had been because I had no clue what was happening. LOL. thanks for clearing it up. I'm with you for next week that she has a stalker and her daughter got kidnapped.

Were you not almost ready to turn the show off though because it was SO BORING for the first 45 minutes?

And how about that little replica house...that's really wierd.
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#617046 - 09/22/06 04:54 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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I too was wondering if she was raped why the heck she wasn't going to a hospital...




Going to the hospital would not be consistent with Katherine's character.

The replica thing was totally creepy! I'll be interested to see how that case plays out.

I'm not sure I'd agree the first 45 minutes were boring; but the cases were definitely anticlimactic.
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#617047 - 09/22/06 05:09 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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I fell asleep and didn't even see the last 15 minutes.

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#617048 - 09/22/06 05:09 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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but the cases were definitely anticlimactic.




A much better description...def. something I wasn't expecting out of a season premier though - glad the last 15 were "climactic"
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#617049 - 09/22/06 05:20 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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I guess they're going to wait to go further into Gil and Sarah's relationship. They showed a couple of scenes where there was a 'hint', but nothing definite. What about Brass's tattoo?
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#617050 - 09/22/06 05:25 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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What about Brass's tattoo?




Looked like a permanent reminder of the incident that won him the award he refused to display. I think I missed some of the background about the shooting, so maybe there's more to it.

These shows always emphasize defining moments for a character so that they can play off them in later scripts.
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#617051 - 09/22/06 05:39 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Catherine is a rape victim. Many rape victims hesitate to go to the hospital because of the inital shock, the shame, the "how could I be so stupid" feeling, the fear of being made the victim again with accusations that she led him on, etc. They eventually decide to go, but by then, crucial evidence is lost or compromised.

As for Brass, he did not want an award, because he felt the reason he got shot was because he screwed up and misread the perp. The tattoo of the date of the bullet wound was to remind him of when it happened and to keep sharp in the future.
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#617052 - 09/23/06 02:10 AM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Wow! It is amazing the knowledge programs of this type have passed on to the general public. No wonder they are so popular.

I am fortunate to have been involved in a number of homicide, rape, shootings and serious assualt cases. Perhaps my best case was obtaining a fingerprint from a copper piggy bank in a rape case that convicted the assailant.

But these were all pre DNA and modern crime scene technologies. When I worked these cases we did not use latex gloves and my camera was an old Graflex plate camera, the type you used to see reporters use in the old black and white movies in the 1950's. We obtained our first .35mm camera in 1977.

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#617053 - 09/25/06 11:25 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Catherine is a rape victim. Many rape victims hesitate to go to the hospital because of the inital shock, the shame ...




Most certainly Catherine feels ashamed and embarrassed by her situation. But I think really (from what we've seen in past episodes) it's pride that stops her from asking for help.
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#617054 - 09/26/06 01:48 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Didnt she actually call into the lab and then hangup when they answered?
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#617055 - 09/26/06 01:56 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Didnt she actually call into the lab and then hangup when they answered?




She did call someone, but I couldn't tell if it was the lab or the police-the lab makes more sense though...
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#617056 - 09/26/06 02:25 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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I thought I remembered hearing the voice on the phone say "Crime Lab" and then she hung up.

Did anyone else catch that or was I dreaming?
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#617057 - 09/26/06 02:38 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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You are correct. She called the crime lab and when they answered, could not go through with it and hung up.
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#617058 - 09/29/06 12:51 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Would anyone recap last night for me. I wasn't able to watch and I'm curious as to how things played out after the ending last week.
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#617059 - 09/29/06 01:03 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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You missed a thorough CSI. Well, Catherine wasn't raped and she was relieved to find that out. Then someone hit her car with her daughter inside and kidnapped the daughter. They found her and she figured out what was going on. There were two guys that had invested about $20 Million with her father, Sam, and they had lost their money. The first guy killed himself during episode 1 this year and the second one was going after Sam's family. In the end she was talking to Sam outside one of his casino's and the 2nd guy walked up and shot him 2 or 3 times in the chest.
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#617060 - 09/29/06 01:11 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Skittles, question for you, I missed much of it, but didn't they just say that the condom Catherine had tested didn't have spermicide in it? I don't remember the part where they said she wasn't raped.
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#617061 - 09/29/06 01:28 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Yes. There was no semen or spermicide. What they did was took a picture of her laying on the bed and sent it to Sam with a threatening note. They did the same with her daughter, Lindsey, while she was being held. Sam received a picture of Lindsey tied and blindfolded in a chair. That's how they figured out where Lindsey was. They had a partial print that tied back to an unsolved burglary a few months prior. When they looked at pictures from the burglary the chair that Lindsey was tied in matched a chair from that home.
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#617062 - 09/29/06 01:46 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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How about that little crime scene house - anything going on with that?
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#617063 - 09/29/06 01:52 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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He was a famous singer/songwriter. He had an ex-wife and son and a current wife and nanny. (I recognized him last night - Danny Bonaduci (spelling?) played his part). He also didn't seem like a very nice guy. At this point, Gil is perplexed on figuring out who did it. The son (about 16 years old) said he fainted at the sight of blood and they did a test on him to see whether or not this was true and it seemed to be so that ruled him out. The wife and the ex-wife were together at the time. So the case is not solved currently. I have a funny feeling that maybe the wife and ex-wife were in cahoots together, but have no basis for that theory.
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#617064 - 09/29/06 04:06 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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I have a funny feeling that maybe the wife and ex-wife were in cahoots together, but have no basis for that theory.




I think you're right that there was some collaboration, but I'm not sure who. The son has the model-building skills. His mom (the ex-wife), had motive because the son inherits the rights to the victim's music - and therefore she inherits because the son is still a minor. We also learn that the vic was stalling on signing away these rights to another company (which is what the current wife wanted, because she wanted the money). And then there's the very "resourceful" nanny, who was sleeping with the vic in the son's bed... I'm starting to think they all had a part in the murder!

I think I missed something at the very end when Grissom was examining the model and they showed a bright blue eye. If this is significant, I'm not sure why.

Danny Bonaduce was the washed-up singer; and Kevin Rahm(from Judging Amy) played the vengeful partner that was gunned down after shooting Sam.
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#617065 - 09/29/06 06:59 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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I think I missed something at the very end when Grissom was examining the model and they showed a bright blue eye. If this is significant, I'm not sure why.




It looked to me like a doll eye, and Grissom had a look like he knew what it meant but then the episode ended!

I can't wait for next week, four victims chatting it up in the morgue? Weird!
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#617066 - 10/02/06 03:34 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Ok, I am finally watched the first two episodes of CSI after recording them. I thought it was an interesting start to the season. I have loved this show from day 1 and never miss an episode (even if I have to record it and watch it later). I am ready to see how the Sara & Grissom thing plays out, and I really want Catherine to find a nice guy already.
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#617067 - 10/02/06 08:45 PM Re: CSI Season Premier...
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Remember the season-ending episode where Nick was buried alive? That episode still gives me the willies. Does anyone think for a moment that if you did survive such an ordeal, that you could go back to work without missing a beat like Nick did? For me, I doubt I could go back to being a CSI, and I would definately need serious counseling from a professional. I think the program would have been better had they written into the following episodes the problems that Nick would have had.

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