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#621327 - 10/04/06 04:43 PM
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I don't think that this can be minimized as just being a "political sex scandal". This is sexual activity involving minors . As an earlier post mentioned, both parties had Congressmen censured for this type of activity 23 years ago, so it isn't a partisan issue - it just shouldn't happen.
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#621328 - 10/04/06 04:52 PM
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I agree NRA.
SP, here is what your boy did, read closely...
He admitted to having consensual sexual relations with a 17-year-old boy that year, and documents showed he had made advances on two other male pages.
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#621329 - 10/04/06 04:45 PM
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I don't think that this can be minimized as just being a "political sex scandal". This is sexual activity involving minors .
That's why I was wondering if anyone knew the ages...if they were underage you're comparing apples to oranges.
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#621330 - 10/04/06 04:47 PM
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Last edited by MadisonCali; 10/04/06 04:47 PM.
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#621336 - 10/04/06 05:32 PM
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Who cares if he's gay -- he was preying on underage pages.
He's still not the only one. Here are a couple examples cited in the column:
"In the early 1980s, the House censured Rep. Dan Crane, R-Ill., and Rep. Gerry Studds, D-Mass., for having sexual relations with teenage pages."
"Rep. Robert Bauman, R-Md., original sponsor of the Family Protection Act, was arrested in 1980 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy."
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#621340 - 10/04/06 06:06 PM
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No, but his political party does.
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#621342 - 10/04/06 06:25 PM
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Did Rep Foley publically attack the lifestyle?
From the same column:
Mark Foley, R-Fla. ... was co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus.
Foley vowed last July to drive sexual solicitation of minors from the Internet.
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Rep. Foley voted to bar gays from the Boy Scouts and championed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriages."
Foley's response: But I was sober when I said those things. I was drunk when I solicited those minor's via the internet. 
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#621343 - 10/04/06 06:25 PM
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Did Rep Foley publically attack the lifestyle?
From the same column:
Mark Foley, R-Fla. ... was co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus.
Foley vowed last July to drive sexual solicitation of minors from the Internet.
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Rep. Foley voted to bar gays from the Boy Scouts and championed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriages."
He can believe in those things and still be gay, can't he?
Also, I read something this morning (I might have heard wrong) that he doesn't believe what he did is child molestation. So, there may be some kind of rationalization going on in his own mind regarding the pages' ages and molestation.
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#621344 - 10/04/06 06:34 PM
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He can believe in those things and still be gay, can't he?
not according to the conservative stance on the "cause" of homosexuality. THAT's the hypocrisy.
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#621345 - 10/04/06 06:33 PM
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He can believe in those things and still be gay, can't he?
not according to the conservative stance on the "cause" of homosexuality. THAT's the hypocrisy.
Which "cause" are you referring to? I have heard many.
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#621347 - 10/04/06 06:54 PM
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He can believe in those things and still be gay, can't he?
not according to the conservative stance on the "cause" of homosexuality. THAT's the hypocrisy.
Which "cause" are you referring to? I have heard many.
the one that would make it hypocritical: gay is a "choice".
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#621348 - 10/04/06 06:47 PM
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From the same column:
Mark Foley, R-Fla. ... was co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus.
Foley vowed last July to drive sexual solicitation of minors from the Internet.
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Rep. Foley voted to bar gays from the Boy Scouts and championed a constitutional ban on same-sex marriages."
He can believe in those things and still be gay, can't he?
Also, I read something this morning (I might have heard wrong) that he doesn't believe what he did is child molestation. ...
Maybe what he did wouldn't be considered "child molestation," but I think it would certainly qualify as "sexual solicitation of a minor." How can it not be hypocrisy to engage in an activity that he publicly opposed?
As far as being gay and still believing that same-sex marriage is wrong and that gays should be banned from the Boy Scouts, it seems more than a bit ironic.
Again, I think he has reationalized that somehow the pages are not minors.
And the fact that some gays do want to change marriage laws to allow them to get married may be ironic, but there are gays who believe this. With divorce rates being what they are, maybe they are right 
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#621349 - 10/04/06 06:55 PM
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It is illogical to mix the message with the messenger. There are also vast psychological explanations for someone engaging in what is most heineous to them. The guy needs more than alcohol rehab, he says he isn't a pedophile. So lets wait until more info comes out. By the way, 16 is the age of consent in Washington D.C. But certainly not where the boys came from. Politicians always have their own set of rules, they can protect each other that way.
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#621350 - 10/04/06 06:51 PM
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No, but his political party does.
According to Fox News there is some question about which party he belongs to! Last night on the O'Reilly program, Foley was shown on three occasions with a label identifying him as a Democrat from Florida. Well, maybe if they say it often enough, some people may believe it.
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