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#110862 - 08/28/03 08:33 PM CIP and Estates
upstateNY Offline
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Can anyone direct me to a thread that has addressed what information will be gathered when an attorney opens an estate account? I feel that the attorney is the "person" opening the account and that we will have to collect his/her name, address, dob and TIN. This is completely separate from how that account will be set up, but seems to follow the logic of CIP. Any comments? Thanks

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#110863 - 08/28/03 09:51 PM Re: CIP and Estates
Ted Dreyer Offline
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Check state law on whether an estate is a legal entity. If it is, then the estate is the customer.

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#110864 - 08/29/03 11:24 AM Re: CIP and Estates
Elwood P. Dowd Offline
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Previously existing BSA regulations define what is a "person:"

31CFR103.11(z) Person. An individual, a corporation, a partnership, a trust or estate...

The estate is the customer. It is the estate whose information you must obtain and whose identity you must verify. A copy of the court order appointing the personal representative (may or may not be an attorney) is your principal source of verification.
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#110865 - 08/29/03 01:43 PM Re: CIP and Estates
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I agree with Ken. Your letters from the court appointing the personal representative to/for the estate with be the documentation necessary for CIP purposes to open the account.

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