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#1144570 - 03/13/09 02:45 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' A_G
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i just don't understand what some people are so afraid of

i would much rather expose my child to the realities of the world and if they are exposed to something that goes against my personal morals/principles/beliefs/religious convictions...teach/educate them accordingly

rather than try to shelter/protect them to the extent where it does them more harm when the time comes that they must face the world on their own

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#1144575 - 03/13/09 02:48 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Miscuit
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#1144591 - 03/13/09 02:58 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' A_G
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Originally Posted By: Jokerman
Is there anything that shouldn't be on broadcast TV?


Don't think I'm being snarky, but I think there needs to be more restraint in local and children-based television. I don't swear that much and certainly don't use that language around children (I've even worked on not saying "stupid" or equally negative words in front of children--not that I'm calling them stupid) so I don't think using foul language in prime time is appropriate. But it's permeated our society, apparently. And it's much harder to undo what has been done than to avoid it altogether. But, that bridge has already been crossed. I also don't think nudity needs to be on local networks, and I freely admit that I'm somewhat sexaphobic.

Here are a few things that I've noticed on cable:

There's a program on Disney where the children constantly back-talk their parents, who are portrayed as little more than bathed troglodytes.

Cartoon Network has episodes of various cartoons that have blatant sexual undertones. I understand the concept of making a program entertaining for the parent and the child.

And what about The Best Damn Sports Show, for parents watching sports with their children?

Ultimately, though I think the role of parenting is more complicated today and requires more attention to what children are exposed. There's no simple solution I can offer, other than DVRing programs and previewing to assure age-appropriateness, and even then it doesn't address what happens when children are in unmonitored homes.
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#1144593 - 03/13/09 03:02 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Miscuit
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Originally Posted By: ZZ Top
i just don't understand what some people are so afraid of

i would much rather expose my child to the realities of the world and if they are exposed to something that goes against my personal morals/principles/beliefs/religious convictions...teach/educate them accordingly

rather than try to shelter/protect them to the extent where it does them more harm when the time comes that they must face the world on their own



...and you've got kids?
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#1144600 - 03/13/09 03:06 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' The OG Zaibatsu
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#1144616 - 03/13/09 03:15 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' A_G
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As I've always said, say what you want, but prepare to suffer the consequences.

Family Guy says what it wants, yet I don't see them hurting for advertising. Large companies in this country (the kind that advertise on national tv) have lots of money and pull.

If enough people didn't like something about the show (time slot, content, whatever), the advertisers would refuse to advertise and the show would get cancelled by the network.

Um, yeah, it's been on the air for 10 years.
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#1144620 - 03/13/09 03:21 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' The OG Zaibatsu
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Having children or not is non sequitur (omg, I finally get to use the coveted BOL word)...

If enough people in this country with children or without children got together and had enough pull to get Faimly Guy off the air moved to a later time slot by getting the advertisers to pull out, then you win.

This has yet to happen. Clearly, the show is wanted by the American people in the current time spot.

I see at least two posters that I know 100% for sure have children and have indicated that they think the show is great, which proves your non sequitur 'do you have children (because then you'd know what it's like)' theory wrong anyways.

But I did post a nice article at the beginning with a group that I'm sure is looking for new membership...
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#1144622 - 03/13/09 03:23 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' A_G
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#1144633 - 03/13/09 03:34 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Bacon Boy
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Way, way south.
I don't think anyone said FG should be off the air, just moved to a later time spot.
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#1144634 - 03/13/09 03:35 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' MB Guy
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I stand corrected.

I will change my statements about going off air to 'move to a later time spot.'
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#1144637 - 03/13/09 03:41 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Bacon Boy
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BB - I hear you.
Even on shows that "should be ok," there are still things that I don't want her picking up. My biggest complaint about Hannah Montana is the way the characters talk to each other, especially to their dad.
There are lots of shows on Disney like that.

There is no TV in her room, all shows that she watches are in the living room, just steps away from the kitchen...where I can listen in.

Heck, anymore unless we're watching Noggin, I am not sure that I want Natalie watching. She's 'almost 6' (in 6 months, but you tell that to her wink ) But I cave, and by cave I mean that yeah, I'll let her watch Hannah or Suite life...and Phineas and Ferb!

We watch lots of movies as a family, Old Yeller is her favorite - and think of the violence!?
But then again, we're also big fans of the World's Greatest Fishing show and John Gillespie's Waters & Woods...when she is around. After her bedtime is when we watch our tivo'd shows (like family guy or bones or The girls next door).

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#1144638 - 03/13/09 03:42 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Bacon Boy
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Sorry, S. Tyler, it's a parent thing, you wouldn't understand.

I win? Steven, I think you've done too much heroin; you're lost in the weeds. I didn't advocated taking it off the air. Rather, I advocated moving it to a later hour.

Yes, lots of people with children watch the show. Do these parents have a problem with FOX agreeing or the FCC requiring that it be shown at a later hour?

Back to rehab for you.
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#1144639 - 03/13/09 03:42 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' QCL
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#1144640 - 03/13/09 03:42 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' A_G
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Originally Posted By: S. Tyler's Mouth
norm life baby
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And our sex is missionary."

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Our confessions will be televised."

You and i are underdosed and we're ready to fall
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Hmm, quoting Marilyn Manson probably isn't the way to persuade fka -Z- to your side!!! smile

Originally Posted By: ZZ Top
i just don't understand what some people are so afraid of

i would much rather expose my child to the realities of the world and if they are exposed to something that goes against my personal morals/principles/beliefs/religious convictions...teach/educate them accordingly

rather than try to shelter/protect them to the extent where it does them more harm when the time comes that they must face the world on their own


Seriously, I love Fox's Sunday night line up - Animation Domiation. But my kids will never watch it. (TiVo rules!) You don't have to "expose" kids to all the bad things in the world for them to understand them. Wait until they are at an age you deem appropriate and then (get this foreign concept) TALK TO THEM. You sure as he!! don't want Seth MacFarlane (sp?) teaching them about the "real world." I agree with fka -Z-; with beliefs like this, I wonder if you have kids.

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#1144645 - 03/13/09 03:47 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Milby
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yeah, that quote was for the benefit of someone else. wink
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#1144651 - 03/13/09 03:53 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' A_G
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If there is any part of this world that you do not want your children to be aware of, then don't have children.
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#1144655 - 03/13/09 03:58 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Becka Marr
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Originally Posted By: Becka Marr
If there is any part of this world that you do not want your children to be aware of, then don't have children.


Quite possibly the worst advice ever given on BOL, and there's been a lot of bad advice given here.
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#1144668 - 03/13/09 04:05 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Becka Marr
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Originally Posted By: Becka Marr
If there is any part of this world that you do not want your children to be aware of, then don't have children.


I want my kids to be aware of prostitution, drug use, and the violence that people can do to each other. That doesn't mean that I want them to watch it happen.
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#1144689 - 03/13/09 04:11 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' rainman
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Originally Posted By: rainman
I want my kids to be aware of prostitution, drug use, and the violence that people can do to each other. That doesn't mean that I want them to watch it happen.


At the appropriate time and on my terms, not because it was brought up on TV during what should be a safe time for families to watch TV. Heck, a family can't even watch a football game together in the middle of the day without having to explain erectile dysfunction to the children. I don't even know what it is, but I've heard of it. wink
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#1144692 - 03/13/09 04:12 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' The OG Zaibatsu
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Well, see, it's this sport where this team of guys have a ball and... whistle
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#1144695 - 03/13/09 04:13 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' rainman
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only if I want to....
I've got a question....

If I have my child with me and we are standing in the room with one of you guys/gals and we are chatting and talking about something or another... would you feel comfortable cursing up a storm with every word known to man? And then lets say a few minutes later if some other man/woman came in the room would you feel ok stripping down right then and there and having sex with them in front of that child? OR

would you be respectful of me and the child and refrain from doing so? If the answer is yes to this question...why?
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#1144717 - 03/13/09 04:25 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' rainman
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Originally Posted By: Becka Marr
If there is any part of this world that you do not want your children to be aware of, then don't have children.


I want my kids to be aware of prostitution, drug use, and the violence that people can do to each other. That doesn't mean that I want them to watch it happen.


I would rather they watch it happen in fiction than experience it in reality. You might bring an awareness by discussing the subject in theory, but I think a lot of understanding doesn't happen until we see things for ourselves.
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#1144728 - 03/13/09 04:31 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' Becka Marr
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Kaytee, the difference is one is recorded with a broad audience in mind and what you describe is a personal interaction presumably intentionally encountered. Two very different things, IMO. But I would believe most people would censor themselves in the company of children. I certainly do.
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#1144729 - 03/13/09 04:31 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' KTMiteComply
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Originally Posted By: Kaytee
I've got a question....

If I have my child with me and we are standing in the room with one of you guys/gals and we are chatting and talking about something or another... would you feel comfortable cursing up a storm with every word known to man? And then lets say a few minutes later if some other man/woman came in the room would you feel ok stripping down right then and there and having sex with them in front of that child? OR

would you be respectful of me and the child and refrain from doing so? If the answer is yes to this question...why?


The person who doesn't refrain from those actions doesn't care if a child is present. And the person who does refrain would still refrain if the child weren't present.
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#1144749 - 03/13/09 04:44 PM Re: Group files FCC complaint against 'Family Guy' A_G
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Originally Posted By: S. Tyler's Mouth
As I've always said, say what you want, but prepare to suffer the consequences.




I agree! Say what you want, but prepare to suffer the consequences.

I love it when something someone says applies to that person as well.

I also love it when we agree! smile

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