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#1165004 - 04/16/09 08:15 PM Re: April 15th has passed... A_G
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Originally Posted By: VodkaGuy
^^^that type of behavior would not be very 'church-like'^^^



how would you know?

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#1165005 - 04/16/09 08:15 PM Re: April 15th has passed... HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: Happy Gilmore
Originally Posted By: VodkaGuy
but, most winnings are only proven to be taxable if they are over a certain amount and only apply to certain games


they withhold automatically if it is more than (I think) $3,000. Less than that, you are responsible for reporting.
Only net winnings are taxable. If you win 10000.00 on Saturday, then lose 3000.00 on Sunday, only 7000.00 is taxable.
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#1165007 - 04/16/09 08:16 PM Re: April 15th has passed... HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: Happy Gilmore
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donating cash to church in untraceable and the IRS will not allow the deduction, which is why people still write the checks
Not necessarily. If your church uses personalized offering envelopes it's possible to still get a church receipt for cash donations.


yes to a certain extent. our church allows you to check off the amount on the front of the envelope, and they record that as the amount donated. But, the IRS does not always take that as gospel truth - no pun intended. People have been known to check off $25 yet only put $5 in it...it is easier to write a check and have the proof...

The churches I've been part of would actually count the cash in the envelope and give you credit for the amount in the envelope, not what was marked on the front of the envelope. Sorta like a bank teller would do with a cash deposit slip.
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#1165008 - 04/16/09 08:17 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Blade Scrapper
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But you need to be able to prove that you lost the 3K.

ATM/CC receipts, a casino 'tab' receipt or something like that.
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#1165009 - 04/16/09 08:17 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Miscuit
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Originally Posted By: VodkaGuy
^^^that type of behavior would not be very 'church-like'^^^



how would you know?


what are you implying? smirk
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#1165014 - 04/16/09 08:20 PM Re: April 15th has passed... A_G
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Originally Posted By: VodkaGuy
But you need to be able to prove that you lost the 3K.

ATM/CC receipts, a casino 'tab' receipt or something like that.
First you have to win the 10000.00. wink
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#1165017 - 04/16/09 08:22 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Blade Scrapper
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Well I don't have that much luck to win that much and I don't have that kind of money to lose, so I really don't gotta worry about it... laugh
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#1165019 - 04/16/09 08:23 PM Re: April 15th has passed... A_G
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not that kind of money to lose?

you would if you stayed out of Canada! wink

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#1165021 - 04/16/09 08:25 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Miscuit
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Their casinos aren't Native run.

No free drinks, you can't smoke, and it's a hassle to cross the border.

I'll give my money to the Natives.
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#1165026 - 04/16/09 08:26 PM Re: April 15th has passed... A_G
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i was referring to your 'other contributions' while in that country

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#1165034 - 04/16/09 08:32 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Miscuit
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OH! the 'tourism.'
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#1165052 - 04/16/09 08:44 PM Re: April 15th has passed... A_G
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I'm just trying to keep the "tithing" posts straight from the "gambling" posts. Not many conversations mix the two - but then again, this IS BOL... wink

Tithing has a fantastic effect on one's tax liability. You could even possibly call it a blessing. laugh
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#1165060 - 04/16/09 08:49 PM Re: April 15th has passed... RebekahL CRCM
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tithing is somewhat of a "gamble" though...isn't it?


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#1165064 - 04/16/09 08:51 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Miscuit
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from dictinary.com:

noun 1. Sometimes, tithes. the tenth part of agricultural produce or personal income set apart as an offering to God or for works of mercy, or the same amount regarded as an obligation or tax for the support of the church, priesthood, or the like.

2. any tax, levy, or the like, esp. of one-tenth.

3. a tenth part or any indefinitely small part of anything
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#1165066 - 04/16/09 08:52 PM Re: April 15th has passed... A_G
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Originally Posted By: VodkaGuy
from dictinary.com:

noun
3. a tenth part or any indefinitely small part of anything


oh the possibilities with this one

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#1165069 - 04/16/09 08:54 PM Re: April 15th has passed... A_G
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I'm thinking the 'or the like' fits gambling. Let's look at this broadly now.

I'm setting aside 10% of my income for the casino. It's a Native American run casino. The Native Americans have a very spiritual background. I'm simply helping to fund the education of the history of the Natives!

no?
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#1165102 - 04/16/09 09:12 PM Re: April 15th has passed... A_G
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The way my church explained it (when they had a campaign to get people to tithe) was that you were to give 5% of your annual income to the church and 5% to other various charities or religious institutions. I think it was their way of allowing for the school tuition to count (encouraging enrollment).
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#1165109 - 04/16/09 09:18 PM Re: April 15th has passed... EllenA
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Originally Posted By: EllenA
The way my church explained it (when they had a campaign to get people to tithe) was that you were to give 5% of your annual income to the church and 5% to other various charities or religious institutions. I think it was their way of allowing for the school tuition to count (encouraging enrollment).


That's actually very refreshing to hear from a church instead of the regular give us all of your tithe.
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#1165118 - 04/16/09 09:27 PM Re: April 15th has passed... MB Guy
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Maybe I'm missing the boat here (chances are good)...but isn't it weird that the church asks (demands in some churchs) for tithes? Isn't the intent to give because you want to give??

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#1165124 - 04/16/09 09:31 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Lisa_Bates
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Personally, this thread has completely confused me.

I assumed tithe was what someone with a lisp said when referring to the slang term for a certain part of a woman's anatomy.
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#1165125 - 04/16/09 09:33 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Peepers
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So from the jist of this thread you can claim donations to the church as gambling losses if you chose the incorrect church an are goin straight to he...
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#1165126 - 04/16/09 09:34 PM Re: April 15th has passed... edAudit
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Peepers
Personally, this thread has completely confused me.

I assumed tithe was what someone with a lisp said when referring to the slang term for a certain part of a woman's anatomy.
laugh

Originally Posted By: EdAudit
So from the jist of this thread you can claim donations to the church as gambling losses if you chose the incorrect church an are goin straight to he...
'Xactly wink

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#1165141 - 04/16/09 10:18 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Lisa_Bates
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Maybe I'm missing the boat here (chances are good)...but isn't it weird that the church asks (demands in some churchs) for tithes? Isn't the intent to give because you want to give??

I think the intent is to give in obedience to God and in recognition that everything we have is only by His blessing.

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#1165215 - 04/17/09 12:37 PM Re: April 15th has passed... Jokerman
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but isn't talking about all the good works you (not specifically you j-man - you just happen to be the last poster. this is a generic "you") do, or the money you give, contrary to religious teaching? obviously, i don't know the tenets of every church, but it would seem to me that talking about it is a way to get recognition for it, which makes it not a "church-like"* act.

*i didn't want to specify "christian" or any specific religion here. i'm not pointing fingers at any church.
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#1165216 - 04/17/09 12:38 PM Re: April 15th has passed... kitten
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