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#2087738 - 07/13/16 05:03 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
performance bonuses that are triggered for wins? playoff victories? stats achieved?
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#2087755 - 07/13/16 06:07 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) TB 12
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Justice doesn't always get served.


excellent point - I know that the Colts were hoping for retro-active awarding of the win for this game where they Pats were found guilty of cheating by the ruling authority, as well as subsequent wins. Sadly, won't happen, so no justice here.
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#2087756 - 07/13/16 06:11 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By TB 12
Justice doesn't always get served.


excellent point - I know that the Colts were hoping for retro-active awarding of the win for this game where they Pats were found guilty of cheating by the ruling authority, as well as subsequent wins. Sadly, won't happen, so no justice here.


That is not what he is referring to. I believe that since they should have been disqualified for every game that they cheated in they would have the worst record in the NFL as such they should be awarded a better line of draft pics. laugh
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#2087760 - 07/13/16 06:13 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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that's a good point Ed, but since they had to forfeit a couple of draft picks already, maybe it is in reference to the inconsistencies if they forfeited all games would they get picks back? or lose even more picks?
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#2087762 - 07/13/16 06:14 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) TMatt87
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Luckily the AFC East is one of the weakest divisions in the NFL, so a 4 game suspension probably won't effect anything. The Pats will still go 11-5 or better and easily make the playoffs.
I keep hearing this, but the statistics don't hold up. In 2015, for example, the AFC East as a whole had more wins (36) than any other division except the NFC South which also had 36. If you take the top team out of each division, including the AFC East, the remaining teams in the AFC East still had more wins than the bottom 3 teams in any other division. So how, exactly, does that make it one of the weakest divisions in the NFL?
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#2087767 - 07/13/16 06:24 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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For starters the jets have not had a NFL quality QB since Namath (and he is rated as the most overrated player in the HOF) . With the exception of last year when they had their best QB in decades. it is noted that he could not start on a laundry list of NFL teams. He could not even get himself arrested so he was dumped from the Bengal's
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#2087805 - 07/13/16 07:30 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Ultimately the players brought this on themselves by allowing Goodell to have ultimate power and be able to hand out punishment without any evidence of a wrongdoing. For that, Brady deserves blame as a member of the union.
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#2087816 - 07/13/16 07:45 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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there was enough proof for an independent person (Goodall) to pronounce him guilty
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#2087819 - 07/13/16 07:59 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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As independent as the FBI was regarding a recent candidate being cleared of charges.....
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#2087823 - 07/13/16 08:03 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) edAudit
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Originally Posted By edAudit
there was enough proof for an independent person (Goodall) to pronounce him guilty
If you think Goodell is independent, you must have a different dictionary than I do.
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#2087824 - 07/13/16 08:03 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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There is no proof that he lacked independence . Much like the claim that he had noting to with making the balls deflate or that the laws of physics have changed and they deflated themselves.
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#2087840 - 07/13/16 08:51 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#2087842 - 07/13/16 08:59 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) RVFlyboy
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
Goodell is there for the sanctity of the league...without his oversight and direction, every team could cheat, which would lead to an actually exciting product that doesn't need 35 seconds between each play for an announcer to show 12 different camera views of what you just watched live scandals among the fan base, and if you're team is perceived to have been cheated, possibly you stop giving as much money to the NFL as they get now...have enough teams with that perception and the revenue drops, and Goodell doesn't get his $44,000,000 per year...so yes, it is in his best interest to be fair and impartial...
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#2087933 - 07/14/16 01:34 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By HappyGilmore
...without his oversight and direction, every team could cheat,

Hasn't worked. Every team DOES cheat. See www.yourteamcheats.com
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#2087958 - 07/14/16 02:19 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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I find it strange that the ownership of the domain is not published in the FAQs

The source data comes from???
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#2087983 - 07/14/16 03:19 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) edAudit
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Originally Posted By edAudit
I find it strange that the ownership of the domain is not published in the FAQs

The source data comes from???
Everything in there provides links to third party documentation including source of that documentation.
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#2087989 - 07/14/16 03:34 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Hasn't worked. Every team DOES cheat. See www.yourteamcheats.com


oh please, like I'm supposed to believe EVEYTHING I read on the internet? pshaw... shocked
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#2088029 - 07/14/16 04:34 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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it should be noted that there is NO citation for their scoring system or how a "cheat" that was not implemented was actually a cheat.

see Impedegate (2013
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#2088046 - 07/14/16 05:12 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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The Jets are 2nd in number of cheats. Given their record, they don't cheat very well.
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#2088054 - 07/14/16 05:32 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Headsetgate (ongoing) flags
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TEAM: All 32 NFL Teams

SEVERITY:scale

SUMMARY: it's a common complaint around the NFL. In late, close games, the helmet communicators of visiting teams suddenly "malfunction" and stop working. It has been accepted as standard practice in the league. Are you on the road and the game is close? Then you are going to have problems with your headset.

In recent years, the Patriots have accused the Colts of doing it and the Jaguars have made the same charge of the Patriots. The Redskins accused the Buccaneers of disabling their headsets, and Tampa Bay accused Dallas. The Giants openly bragged about doing it way back in 1956. The charges go on and on and on.


VICTIM: The entire league


they are not even listed as cheating but yet got 4 points. how is that possible unless the site was written by a patriot fan blaming the jets for all the cheats that they do/
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#2088100 - 07/14/16 08:00 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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why wouldn't each team just bring their own communication devices and not rely on home team to supply? the cost is negligible...
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#2088103 - 07/14/16 08:02 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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so they can have another fake issue that sells tickets.
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#2088442 - 07/18/16 11:01 AM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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glad to see this finally over and the guilty will serve his penalty
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#2088453 - 07/18/16 12:30 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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I finally see the penalty for allegedly deflating footballs:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/27/nfl-2015-fine-schedule


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#2088459 - 07/18/16 12:40 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Other Uniform/Equipment Violations; $5,787; $11,576

in 2015 it would include a fine and a suspension? What about 2016?
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