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#607810 - 08/31/06 06:36 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Bimmer Diamond Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,121 Wherever the plane lands	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: GuitarDude - Don't even get me started on the Hot Coffee issue. That's just nuts! The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages. This amount was reduced to $160,000 because the jury found Liebeck 20 percent at fault in the spill. The jury also awarded Liebeck $2.7 million in punitive damages, which equals about two days of McDonald's coffee sales. Post-verdict investigation found that the temperature of coffee at the local Albuquerque McDonald's had dropped to 158 degrees Fahrenheit. The trial court subsequently reduced the punitive award to $480,000 -- or three times compensatory damages -- even though the judge called McDonald's conduct reckless, callous and willful. Subsequent to remittitur, the parties entered a post-verdict settlement. I did a paper on this back in my Law School days. The part of the story that most people are not aware of is that the woman's husband subsequently sued McDonald's for "Loss of his wife's services" and was awarded somewhere around 1.5 mil. I've never heard that. Got any reliable proof online? Let me see if I can dig up my papers from college. I'll let you know. Last edited by Bimmer; 08/31/06 06:38 PM. _________________________ My silence doesn't mean that I agree with you. It's just that your level of ignorance has rendered me speechless.
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#607811 - 08/31/06 06:42 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Maxx Diamond Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2,476 USA	Buddy, I realize they found her 20% negligent. I'm not "against" Stella. I'm just "against" the decline of common sense. The people that are completely against her or completely against McDonald are not using any. SP - They wouldn't have known that. If it is labeled as "hot" are you going to take your chances that it's not as hot as someplace else and think "well, this isn't McDonald's, I'll just stick this between my legs"? Like I said it's a common sense thing on both sides of the coffee fence.
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#607812 - 08/31/06 07:28 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
MichelleDawn Power Poster Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,994	Quote: Buddy, I realize they found her 20% negligent. I'm not "against" Stella. I'm just "against" the decline of common sense. The people that are completely against her or completely against McDonald are not using any. SP - They wouldn't have known that. If it is labeled as "hot" are you going to take your chances that it's not as hot as someplace else and think "well, this isn't McDonald's, I'll just stick this between my legs"? Like I said it's a common sense thing on both sides of the coffee fence. I understand what you are saying and I agree up to a point. I think the point you are missing is that the coffee at McDonald's wasn't just "hot." It was "molten lava hot" and no one was made aware it was much hotter than a normal cup of coffee. _________________________ If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
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#607813 - 08/31/06 07:40 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
BurntSienna Diamond Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,407 Midwest	So... let's vote... should the Hedgehog Preservation Society make it their next order of business to lobby McD's to put warnings in all dialects of hedgehog language about the temperature of the coffee on all the cups, too? After all, if the little furry guys are such sugar freaks, they might be hot on the trail of any recently-discarded half-full still-molten-lava-hot cuppas! _________________________ "Gratitude makes sense of our past, brings peace for today, and creates a vision for tomorrow." - Melody Beattie
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#607814 - 08/31/06 07:41 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Maxx Diamond Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2,476 USA	SP - I see your point. And no, I'm not missing the point that McD's coffee was hotter than everyone elses. That's why I'm not "siding" with anyone on this issue. I can tell you aren't either. Question- Has the food service industry ever put a maximum temperature that coffe can be served at by a restaurant? If not, maybe they need to be regulated the way banks are. tee hee, tee hee.
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#607815 - 08/31/06 07:49 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
BurntSienna Diamond Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,407 Midwest	Not the dreaded "Coffee Temperature Act" soon-to-be-passed by Congress? Before we know it, there will be one employee at each McDonald's branch designated as the CTA/Compliance officer... _________________________ "Gratitude makes sense of our past, brings peace for today, and creates a vision for tomorrow." - Melody Beattie
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#607816 - 08/31/06 07:48 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Maxx Diamond Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2,476 USA	LMAO!!
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#607817 - 08/31/06 07:56 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
waldensouth Power Poster Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 7,985 FINALLY ABOVE the gnat line	Quote: Before we know it, there will be one employee at each McDonald's branch designated as the CTA/Compliance officer... I thought that was the little old lady/gent serving coffee at breakfast each morning in the lobby at mcD's. That's the job I want when I retire - forget Wally World! _________________________ "Once you learn to read, you will be forever free." - Frederick Douglass My Opinion Only.
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#607818 - 08/31/06 08:52 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Peepers 10K Club Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 13,994	What preys on a hedgehog? Perhaps the pee of that animal can be mixed in with McFlurrys. The hedgehog would take one sniff of that container and move along. Problem solved. _________________________ blah
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#607819 - 08/31/06 08:57 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
BurntSienna Diamond Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,407 Midwest	mmmmmm hedgehog-predator-pee-McFlurry!!!! (say it in your best Homer Simpson voice... it's funny, really it is!) _________________________ "Gratitude makes sense of our past, brings peace for today, and creates a vision for tomorrow." - Melody Beattie
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#607820 - 08/31/06 08:58 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Buddy Love Platinum Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 555 Texas	Here is a copy of a doomed hedgehog: http://www.brentlodge.org/images/general/McFlurry.jpg Looks like natural selection to me. _________________________ What is man, that thou art mindful of him?
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#607821 - 08/31/06 09:15 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Snowqueen Diamond Poster Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,289 dreaming of a warm beach......	Okay, so one hedgehog gets caught in a McFlurry cup and Mickey D's has to change the size of their cup. Peeps, how much jerky would you get out of one hedgehog??? They don't look very big!
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#607822 - 08/31/06 09:15 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Peepers 10K Club Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 13,994	Quote: I have to disagree a little bit. While I wouldn't put anything hot (no comments Peepers) between my legs for fear of being burned. No comments allowed? You’re such a buzzkill! _________________________ blah
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#607823 - 08/31/06 09:25 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Peepers 10K Club Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 13,994	Quote: Okay, so one hedgehog gets caught in a McFlurry cup and Mickey D's has to change the size of their cup. Peeps, how much jerky would you get out of one hedgehog??? They don't look very big! Seeing as how hedgehogs stick their whole freaking heads in McFlurry containers when everyone know you use a spoon, I’m not sure I would want to make jerky out of one. What if eating hedgehog jerky caused an overwhelming desire in me to mimic this behavior? What then? Where would it end? Would I try to stick my head in beer bottles? I’m not willing to take this chance. _________________________ blah
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#607824 - 08/31/06 09:30 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Buddy Love Platinum Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 555 Texas	Quote: Okay, so one hedgehog gets caught in a McFlurry cup and Mickey D's has to change the size of their cup. Peeps, how much jerky would you get out of one hedgehog??? They don't look very big! Yep, first time meat is actually found in a McD's food container and people complain. You just can't satisfy everyone. _________________________ What is man, that thou art mindful of him?
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#607825 - 08/31/06 09:47 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Duke 100 Club Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 151 North Eastern CA	And now since the opening is smaller, what poor little animal is going to get its head stuck in it??? Hopefully those poor little critters will have their own society as well!! Duke
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#607826 - 08/31/06 09:49 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Snowqueen Diamond Poster Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,289 dreaming of a warm beach......	Quote: Quote: Okay, so one hedgehog gets caught in a McFlurry cup and Mickey D's has to change the size of their cup. Peeps, how much jerky would you get out of one hedgehog??? They don't look very big! Seeing as how hedgehogs stick their whole freaking heads in McFlurry containers when everyone know you use a spoon, I’m not sure I would want to make jerky out of one. What if eating hedgehog jerky caused an overwhelming desire in me to mimic this behavior? What then? Where would it end? Would I try to stick my head in beer bottles? I’m not willing to take this chance. I don't know if BOL could handle a bottle head Peepers
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#607827 - 09/01/06 12:37 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Nanwa Power Poster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,564 Clintonville, WI, USA	Oh Peeps, oh Snowqueen! You have me laughing/crying in my cubicle! I guess I needed a good laugh this week. Thanx for that beer bottle image! Wonder if the hedgehog gets brain freeze, eating a McFlurry without a spoon? _________________________ Member of the National Sarcasm Society - like we need your support!
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#607828 - 09/01/06 04:46 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
mck401 Diamond Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,168 Texas	Quote: And now since the opening is smaller, what poor little animal is going to get its head stuck in it??? Hopefully those poor little critters will have their own society as well!! Usally at a BBQ, Ants and Flies like to join the party. Is there a PAF society? That would be the Preservation of Ants and Flies. _________________________ Work less, play more.....why not????
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#607829 - 09/01/06 07:01 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Miscuit 10K Club Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 18,789 TX	Quote: Oh Peeps, oh Snowqueen! You have me laughing/crying in my cubicle! I guess I needed a good laugh this week. Thanx for that beer bottle image! Wonder if the hedgehog gets brain freeze, eating a McFlurry without a spoon? Ok...I may be asking a stupid question...but I don't frequent "Mickey D's" very often... Is there REALLY something called a "McFlurry" there???
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#607830 - 09/01/06 06:59 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
HappyGilmore 10K Club Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 19,859 Pulling people out of the ditc...	I can think of a number of people who eat at McDonald's that need to get their head stuck so they can't eat... _________________________ Providing alternative truths since the invention of time
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#607831 - 09/01/06 07:01 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Snowqueen Diamond Poster Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,289 dreaming of a warm beach......	Quote: Quote: Oh Peeps, oh Snowqueen! You have me laughing/crying in my cubicle! I guess I needed a good laugh this week. Thanx for that beer bottle image! Wonder if the hedgehog gets brain freeze, eating a McFlurry without a spoon? Ok...I may be asking a stupid question...but I don't frequent "Mickey D's" very often... Is there REALLY something called a "McFlurry" there??? The Mickey D's version of a DQ Blizzard!
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#607832 - 09/01/06 07:08 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Nanwa Power Poster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,564 Clintonville, WI, USA	Or Culver's version is called "Concrete". _________________________ Member of the National Sarcasm Society - like we need your support!
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#607833 - 09/01/06 09:17 PM Re: Hedgehogs humble McDonalds
Miscuit 10K Club Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 18,789 TX	Quote: Quote: Quote: Oh Peeps, oh Snowqueen! You have me laughing/crying in my cubicle! I guess I needed a good laugh this week. Thanx for that beer bottle image! Wonder if the hedgehog gets brain freeze, eating a McFlurry without a spoon? Ok...I may be asking a stupid question...but I don't frequent "Mickey D's" very often... Is there REALLY something called a "McFlurry" there??? The Mickey D's version of a DQ Blizzard! Ahhhh...now the DQ Blizzard...I'm familiar with that!
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