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#705119 - 03/22/07 05:05 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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I agree with kms....I think the hybrids are a catch 22-if people could justify the extra cost by gas savings, they would be willing. But in many cases it isn't realistic to think that will happen-the extra up front cost is too high, not to mention the environmental costs that have been previously mentioned due to the production of these cars. Certainly, we can and should be further along with alternative fuels, wind farms, etc, but the hypocrisy is pathetic-there have been several proposals for wind farms down off Cape Cod, but the Kennedys and Kerrys of the world don't want the view from their compounds spoiled.....Even Romney had come out against it fearing it would deter tourism....typical NIMBY....A couple years back during his reelection campaign, the Mayor of Boston was called to the carpet by one of his opponents about the Excursion he was carted around in-he responded by saying he tried to buy a Hybrid Escape, but there was a backlog, to which the opponent again called his bluff, went out and bought one. He reluctantly bought one, but was later caught on tape whining about how small it was (I will say he is not a slim man...) so much talk, little action...
At home, we recycle as much as we can, and have been able to by flourescent light bulbs from our electric company. Every little bit helps.
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#705127 - 03/22/07 05:15 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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What Sox says makes sense. It does not have to be a global warming thing for us to become increasingly environmentally conscious. And little things do help, as long as many people are doing those little things, since it rapidly adds up. Recycling, car pooling, etc., alternative sources of fuel will actually be a big one over time, these all add up.
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#705137 - 03/22/07 05:27 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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Fella and Sox...it is funny you say that... B/c the one thing Gore has said overwhelmingly in the movie and since is that it is the little things that help. He specifically points out replacing the incadescent bulbs... Yes, but in deference to Al Gore, I am stating that little things help the environment generally, without reference to the alleged man-made causes of global warming. Not meaning to be preachy, but we are the stewards of creation. If the earth is in its normal cyclical warming period as indicated by the many dissenting scientists, I still want to have a clean place to live and fresh water. That does not require the extreme measures called for by some global warming pundits.
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#705154 - 03/22/07 05:46 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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Dissenting scientist have quoted "hotter" warming periods than this in geological history, and that we are at the tail end of an "interglacial" period of warming...in other words, we may be on the verge of beginning a few millenia of global cooling leading into an ice age a few thousand years from now. See the very informative study below: http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
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#705169 - 03/22/07 06:24 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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Dissenting scientist have quoted "hotter" warming periods than this in geological history, and that we are at the tail end of an "interglacial" period of warming...in other words, we may be on the verge of beginning a few millenia of global cooling leading into an ice age a few thousand years from now. See the very informative study below: http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html ICE AGE????? Turn up the heat in here!!!
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#705172 - 03/22/07 06:28 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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I am sooo moving back to Hawaii if it comes to that.
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#705189 - 03/22/07 06:43 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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I am sooo moving back to Hawaii if it comes to that. I'll be right behind you.
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#705204 - 03/22/07 06:49 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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At least my little part of the world showed up as a forest on his little ice age maps! We may be colder, but we'll still be green!
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#705205 - 03/22/07 06:50 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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Yes but maybe only as cold as MN or Ny are now, Not like north pole cold
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#705241 - 03/22/07 07:14 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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I think the southern hemisphere was spared the direct effects of the ice age, no?
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#705257 - 03/22/07 07:21 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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I thought so, but I will have to look into it, Take a loan out on my personal value and by a little beach house to prepare
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#705260 - 03/22/07 07:22 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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If Hawaii would be spared (I think that is northern hem though, right?) then on my next assignment to Hawaii, I am looking into a hut for moi.
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#705266 - 03/22/07 07:24 PM
Re: More Dissenting Debate on the Global Warming Issue
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Yes it is northern hemi, I reccomend the north shore, the waves are incredible in the winter.
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#706685 - 03/26/07 06:47 PM
The Politics of Attacking Al Gore
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#706688 - 03/26/07 06:52 PM
Re: The Politics of Attacking Al Gore
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NP, have an opinion or point?
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#706783 - 03/26/07 08:15 PM
Re: The Politics of Attacking Al Gore
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nothing is being done to actually protect the environment. That's quite a statement. Care to revise?
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#706802 - 03/26/07 08:29 PM
Re: The Politics of Attacking Al Gore
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nothing is being done to actually protect the environment. That's quite a statement. Care to revise? Sure...The Republicans are doing nothing to combat global warming...
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