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#1161721 - 04/10/09 05:28 PM Somali Terrorists are just Disasters
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NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -

The American captain held hostage by four Somali pirates made a desperate escape attempt Friday but was recaptured after they fired shots, and officials said other pirates sought to reinforce their colleagues by sailing hijacked ships with other captives aboard to the scene of the standoff.
A Somali in contact with a pirate leader said the captors want a ransom and are ready to kill the hostage, Capt. Richard Phillips, if attacked.

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Would this situation qualify for the new term "man made disaster' ? Or can we just call them terrorists?
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#1161727 - 04/10/09 05:31 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Pale Rider
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No need for a new name, they're pirates. Pirates have been doing the same thing for thousands of years. Julius Caesar was captured by pirates and ransomed once...Once. laugh

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http://www.livius.org/caa-can/caesar/caesar_t01.htm
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#1161729 - 04/10/09 05:32 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Pale Rider
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Missed opportunity!

The Navy should have been constantly fixed on the boat. The moment that the captain was out of the life boat, they should have blown the boat out of the a water.

I know this is easier said then done, but that is the way I feel.
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#1161731 - 04/10/09 05:34 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters FBH
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Promice them everything and when they get the capt. back dye packs on steriods.
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#1161766 - 04/10/09 05:58 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters edAudit
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LOL @ dye packs laugh

Does Somalia support their pirates? I don't see why we don't just blast all the known pirate ships...shwo them a thing or two...
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#1161768 - 04/10/09 06:00 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Dip
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But what about the un-dead pirates. You don't want to tick them off!!
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#1161956 - 04/10/09 08:19 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Peepers
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Why didn't Bush take care of this in the last 8 years!?!?!?!?!?

(Oh, wait a minute - no American vessels had been seized by pirating terrorists for 200 years)
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#1161959 - 04/10/09 08:22 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Pale Rider
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#1161964 - 04/10/09 08:31 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Pale Rider
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:(Another first for Obama. Hey Bush got blamed for everything
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#1162014 - 04/10/09 09:07 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Dip
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Does Somalia support their pirates?

Somolia is run by a bunch of competing rag tag war lords and does not have an official government.
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#1162017 - 04/10/09 09:10 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Dip
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Originally Posted By: Dip
LOL @ dye packs laugh

Does Somalia support their pirates? I don't see why we don't just blast all the known pirate ships...shwo them a thing or two...



this kind of cowboy diplomacy of the past eight years is no more!

we need to send in the FBI hostage negotiators; these people need to see we are not arrogant, dismissive and derisive...
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#1162018 - 04/10/09 09:10 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters homestar
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sounds similar to Congress grin

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#1162042 - 04/10/09 09:37 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Pale Rider
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Originally Posted By: Pale Rider

we need to send in the FBI hostage negotiators; these people need to see we are not arrogant, dismissive and derisive...


We need to send in hostage negotiators to get the captain back alive. Unless you simply don't care about that sort of thing.

It's interesting to note that under international maritime law, pirates are considered 'hostis humani generis', and may be captured wherever they are found and by whoever finds them. That said, I don't know why commercial shipping lines don't fund better security for their vessels.

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#1162043 - 04/10/09 09:43 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Hrothgar Geiger
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Send one navy seal diver with an underwater drill and pop a few dozen holes in the bottom of the life boat. Problem will be solved real quick.
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#1162047 - 04/10/09 09:49 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Hrothgar Geiger
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Originally Posted By: Hrothgar Gieger
Originally Posted By: Pale Rider

we need to send in the FBI hostage negotiators; these people need to see we are not arrogant, dismissive and derisive...


That said, I don't know why commercial shipping lines don't fund better security for their vessels.



I read the insurance companies call the shots in this regard...
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#1162137 - 04/12/09 01:06 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters homestar
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It's now Sunday. Captain Richard Phillips is still captive. Where's the President on this?

Oh, if W can't be blamed, no crisis - - it's only a 'distraction.'
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#1162140 - 04/12/09 01:51 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Patriot
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Let's see, we have the USS Bainbridge, the USS Boxer and an FBI HRT on scene. In your 1/2-vast knowledge of hostage rescues, what more do you think should be done?

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#1162141 - 04/12/09 04:00 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Hrothgar Geiger
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...what more do you think should be done?

I think we should get some documentation on when, exactly, President Bush bowed to a Saudi royal.

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#1162162 - 04/13/09 10:24 AM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Patriot
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Originally Posted By: Patriot
It's now Sunday. Captain Richard Phillips is still captive. Where's the President on this?

Oh, if W can't be blamed, no crisis - - it's only a 'distraction.'


Uh, he did, he authorized the use of the Navy Seals:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/world/africa/13pirates.html?_r=1&hp
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#1162199 - 04/13/09 01:02 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters DeeQ
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#1162206 - 04/13/09 01:18 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters MB Guy
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Great story - our snipers are badass. Hitting three targets with three rounds one a life raft in the open sea is impressive!
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#1162208 - 04/13/09 01:21 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters FBH
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I'll say, some real marksmanship, there. :proud:
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#1162217 - 04/13/09 01:46 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Jokerman
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Originally Posted By: Hrothgar Gieger
...what more do you think should be done?

I think we should get some documentation on when, exactly, President Bush bowed to a Saudi royal.


rofl, good luck with that Barbie.
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#1162218 - 04/13/09 02:00 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Pale Rider
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#1162220 - 04/13/09 02:04 PM Re: Somali Terrorists are just Disasters Miscuit
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