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#1529619 - 03/31/11 05:10 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Soccer
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#1530118 - 04/01/11 01:20 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification BrendaC
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Did anyone come up with a statement message yet? If so, can you share?

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#1530130 - 04/01/11 01:32 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification DCollins
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Effective xx/xx/xx: Depending on the type of check that you deposit, funds may not be available until the fifth business day after the day of your deposit. The first $200 of your deposits, however, may be available on the first business day.
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#1530259 - 04/01/11 03:13 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification rlcarey
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Very nice. Thanks.

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#1531405 - 04/05/11 01:10 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification xerx
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Thank you both. When I last read about this change, I assumed they would update Regulation CC before I was required to make changes.



I thought so too.

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#1531416 - 04/05/11 01:57 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Georgia Golfer
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Actually, this was addressed in the March 25th proposal and it was indicated that the transfer date was the effective date for the change from $100 to $200 whether or not the new regulations were issued or not. The proposal includes the updated regulatory language and model forms to support the change:

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2011/pdf/2011-5449.pdf
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#1536430 - 04/15/11 08:34 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification rlcarey
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I realize we must inform our customers within 30 days of changing our policy. We have pre-printed account disclosures for new accounts. Is it ok to do an insert for this change (so we can use the supply we have already)?

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#1536570 - 04/17/11 11:22 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification elebra
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Yes. It would also be acceptable, if not aesthetically pleasing, to do pen-and-ink changes to your current supply.
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#1538383 - 04/20/11 08:32 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Soccer
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Has anyone come up with a condensed message that can go on the statements that they are willing to share? Our bank is very limited on space.

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#1538389 - 04/20/11 08:34 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification okcowgirl
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Please disregard the last post. I see where rlcarey replied earlier in the post. Thanks.

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#1540164 - 04/25/11 04:10 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification rlcarey
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I can't remember why, but we choose the second day instead of the fifth day,
so for us - we would change Rick's language to:
.....depending on the type of check that you deposit, funds may not be available until the SECOND day after...."

"second" substituted for "fifth", right?
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#1540169 - 04/25/11 04:12 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Burgess
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Our lobby disclosures also say 2. I think this is in line with using a case-by-case hold. We also use exception holds.
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#1540403 - 04/25/11 08:14 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Soccer
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I believe a statement message would do. Has anyone come up with a statement message yet that they would be willing to share? We are limited to very few characters with our statement messages, so I just wanted to get some ideas of how to make the message short and sweet, but give them what they need.

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#1540410 - 04/25/11 08:17 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification sturner
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See RLCarey's post in this same thread...short, sweet and to the point.
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#1540453 - 04/25/11 09:17 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Doug Hendrickson
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Wow. Thanks Doug! It's been a long Monday. I looked through teh thread before I posted, but totally missed that. Thanks!

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#1546050 - 05/04/11 09:10 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification sturner
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If we do not do case by case holds, do we need to disclose the change of $100 to $200 available for withdrawal on the business day after deposit?

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#1546103 - 05/04/11 10:02 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Happy
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Generally, the $100/$200 disclosure only applies to banks that (1) don't generally provide next-day availability, (2) do provide next-day availability but may impose case-by-case holds, or (3) generally provide next-day availability, but may impose both case-by-case holds and exception holds.

Banks that have general next-day access and don't impose case-by-case holds don't have a $100 disclosure requirement.
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#1546167 - 05/05/11 02:13 AM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification John Burnett
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Randy, shouldn’t your suggested language state "funds may not be available until the second business day after the day of your deposit." to reflect that the five day case-by-case hold is now gone since there are no longer any nonlocal checks?

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#1546206 - 05/05/11 12:32 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Compliance Poster
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Probably - But that is still the language that they use in the new proposed Model C-3 - although they also seem to still reference the $100 in the proposed model. You can tell they rushed the proposal to the presses.
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#1546647 - 05/05/11 05:11 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification John Burnett
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Originally Posted By: John Burnett
Generally, the $100/$200 disclosure only applies to banks that (1) don't generally provide next-day availability, (2) do provide next-day availability but may impose case-by-case holds, or (3) generally provide next-day availability, but may impose both case-by-case holds and exception holds.

Banks that have general next-day access and don't impose case-by-case holds don't have a $100 disclosure requirement.

John, am I understanding it correctly that if we're a bank using model form C-2 with next day availability and no use of case-by-case holds, then the entire $100/$200 transition should be a non-event for us?

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#1546659 - 05/05/11 05:22 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Jeff79
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Since there is no mention of the $100 availability in Model C-2, I would say non-event.
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#1546671 - 05/05/11 05:33 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification rlcarey
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Thanks!

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#1567546 - 06/21/11 03:35 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification rlcarey
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RE: rlcarey's sample language ... "Effective xx/xx/xx: Depending on the type of check that you deposit, funds may not be available until the [second] business day after the day of your deposit. The first $200 of your deposits, however, may be available on the first business day." ...

The model notice in the regulation says the $200 "will" be available on the first business day vs. "may" be available. Is there a reason for using "will" vs. "may" in this sentence?

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#1567555 - 06/21/11 03:34 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification Summer101
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"May" reflects a case-by-case application while "will" indicates something that happens in most cases under discussion. We are generally a next-day availability bank; therefore, I would use "may" in the first sentence and "will" in the second.
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#1567611 - 06/21/11 04:30 PM Re: Question re: Reg CC customer notification BrendaC
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Thanks Brenda. We are case-by-case also and used to say "may" in the first sentence and "will" in the second sentence. Somewhere along the line that was changed to using "may" in both sentences. I'm not sure why and was wondering when using "may" vs. "will" would be appropriate.

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