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#502733 - 02/22/06 08:06 PM
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"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
-- Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, was born in Wellesley MA and co-founded the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
-- Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). ____
The ACLU is the most dangerous group in America.
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#502735 - 02/22/06 09:31 PM
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I don't know if I'd agree that the ACLU is the most dangerous group, but they do rank up there. Though certainly not for the reasons posted. What's wrong with socialism? If implimented correctly, it's not too bad of a way to go. Of course, the main problem is that it takes people to make it happen... and that pretty much dooms it.
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#502737 - 02/22/06 10:09 PM
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The ACLU has nothing to do with civil liberties.
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#502738 - 02/23/06 05:23 AM
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The ACLU has nothing to do with civil liberties.
Actually their mission statement says:
"The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:
Your First Amendment rights-freedom of speech, association and assembly. Freedom of the press, and freedom of religion supported by the strict separation of church and state.
Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.
Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.
Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs."
They defend liberty for all of us - and, not surprisingly, X considers that to be dangerous.
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#502739 - 02/23/06 01:20 PM
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The ACLU has nothing to do with civil liberties.
enlighten us. what does it do?
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#502740 - 02/24/06 03:13 PM
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Last edited by Hansome Stan; 02/24/06 03:14 PM.
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#502743 - 02/24/06 06:40 PM
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Ha! I was thinking the same thing. What was it before, gffh?
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#502745 - 02/24/06 07:09 PM
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Which pill do you take to stop living in the Matrix?
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#502747 - 02/24/06 07:12 PM
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the heritage was religious freedom. and the aclu isn't denying heritage, they are trying to deny government endorsement of it.
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#502748 - 02/24/06 07:13 PM
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do you realize that if the government tried to say that we cannot worship christianity, the aclu would be the first to oppose it?
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#502749 - 02/24/06 07:24 PM
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do you realize that if the government tried to say that we cannot worship christianity, the aclu would be the first to oppose it?
Facts are wasted on the paranoid.
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#502750 - 02/24/06 10:12 PM
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The ACLU has long not promoted civil liberties. They have a far left agenda and attack the administration whenever they get a chance. Lately they have started to attack the US.
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#502751 - 02/25/06 12:08 AM
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do you realize that if the government tried to say that we cannot worship christianity, the aclu would be the first to oppose it?
Facts are wasted on the paranoid.
what a good way to describe conservative m.o.s!
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#502752 - 02/25/06 02:24 AM
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X tries to use guilt by association in connecting the ACLU with NAMBLA. Yes, they have represented quite a few infamous clients, the KKK and the Nazi party when they weren't allowed to protest and Oliver North when his rights were violated. Just because they stand up for constitutional rights doesn't mean they agree with the group. NAMBLA was being sued because someone said their publications "made" someone commit a crime. If writers and producers of books can be sued just because someone commits a crime, it will keep ideas from being published. Quote:
The ACLU is involved in the secular cleansing of our history
What garbage! Here is a case in which Agape Press discusses the ACLU forcing a school to back down when they would let a student put a bible quote in a yearbook
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/5/172004d.asp
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#502753 - 02/25/06 05:12 AM
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I don't know if I'd agree that the ACLU is the most dangerous group, but they do rank up there. Though certainly not for the reasons posted. What's wrong with socialism? If implimented correctly, it's not too bad of a way to go. Of course, the main problem is that it takes people to make it happen... and that pretty much dooms it.
Voluntary socialism is a good thing. Forced socialism is a bad thing, a very, very bad thing.
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#502754 - 02/25/06 05:12 AM
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Great; we should get off the whole Dubai issue, since you aren't making any headway there.
Or maybe you should change the discussion here to Dubai because you have no defense of the ACLU.
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#502755 - 02/25/06 05:15 AM
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The ACLU has nothing to do with civil liberties.
Actually their mission statement says:
"The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:
Your First Amendment rights-freedom of speech, association and assembly. Freedom of the press, and freedom of religion supported by the strict separation of church and state.
Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.
Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.
Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs."
They defend liberty for all of us - and, not surprisingly, X considers that to be dangerous.
And will you please print Enron's mission statement while you are at it? Enron's mission statement noted that the company prided itself on four key values: respect, integrity, communication and excellence. Among other things, all business dealings at Enron were supposed to be "open and fair."
My point is that your point is pointless!
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#502756 - 02/25/06 05:17 AM
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Consider, they even defended Rush Limbaugh. That's got to count for something (and that could count either in their favor or against them depending on which soapbox a person is on).
Yes, if the case fits their narrow definition of civil rights, they'll take on either side regardless of how repulsed they are by it.
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#502757 - 02/25/06 05:18 AM
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the heritage was religious freedom. and the aclu isn't denying heritage, they are trying to deny government endorsement of it.
Or public school teaching of its place in our history.
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