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#781391 - 07/24/07 02:29 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! B_F
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True. Very true.

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#781394 - 07/24/07 02:31 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! B_F
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I am sure part of it is editing, but his attitude has been awful lately. Josh was awful, and as was stated before, he was probably kept to be a whipping boy.

I thought he was going to keep both of them, given josh was kicked out earlier-but Ramsey did the right thing. Julia is hard working and showed alot-everyone gave her [censored] and thought very little of her.
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#781402 - 07/24/07 02:39 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Comp Guy No More
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Totally agree about Rock's attitude. He is really getting on my nerves the last few weeks. He can really be a jerk!

Ramsey was awfully cool to Julia. That was really nice to see. She was definately one of my favs all season.
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#781415 - 07/24/07 02:52 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Beige
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Bob
Totally agree about Rock's attitude. He is really getting on my nerves the last few weeks. He can really be a jerk!


Doc Bob, they can ALL be jerks. Bonnie has been a class B Witch, Jen has been a whiny bossy wench, and Rock has been a po'd angry jerk. It's called editing.

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#781421 - 07/24/07 02:54 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! B_F
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Yeah - I know. But I feel like I must b**** about the current one with the attitude - that way I don't get tired of hatin on the same person all the time!
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#781429 - 07/24/07 02:57 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Beige
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I thought from the beginning that Rock would win. Jen I felt had to the skill, but not the personality or leadership skills to run a resturant. But last night, I think Rock showed his true colors, he complained that he was called out, but seemed to do everything he could to keep it going and as Bonnie said "trying to bully her (Jen)". Rock seems to have a chip on his shoulder and that could really end up hurting him when it appears that he has had the best skills of all the competitors. I did like that Jen barked back at Rock, I think that if she showed she had a little more backbone, she could go far.
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#781450 - 07/24/07 03:10 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Seadevil
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I thought that Ramsey made the right decision last night. Julia was great, but she needs a little more experience under her belt.

I think that Rock and Jen both have skill, but Jen has the better overall attitude. Multiple times we have watched Rock sit back and watch a team mate struggle...is he going to do that with the chefs in his restaurant? Jen has more of a team player attitude, and we've seen her step up and be a leader in the past.
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#781454 - 07/24/07 03:12 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Sing A Little
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I think the views that they are showing of Rock are leading to him winning this. I am not sure why I feel this way but there it is.
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#781464 - 07/24/07 03:20 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Sing A Little
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Originally Posted By: Sing A Little
Multiple times we have watched Rock sit back and watch a team mate struggle...is he going to do that with the chefs in his restaurant?


Are the chefs in his restaurant competing for ownership of his restaurant?

Remember, while they are on teams for this show, they are in competition with their teamates at the same time for a huge prize.

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#781514 - 07/24/07 03:53 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! B_F
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Originally Posted By: Bengalsfan
Originally Posted By: Sing A Little
Multiple times we have watched Rock sit back and watch a team mate struggle...is he going to do that with the chefs in his restaurant?


Are the chefs in his restaurant competing for ownership of his restaurant?

Remember, while they are on teams for this show, they are in competition with their teamates at the same time for a huge prize.


That's where the next two weeks will be interesting. The winner needs to be able to lead and have the respect of their staff. Ramsey likes it when he sees the competitors step up and help out. This week's decision seemed hard for him to make - maybe that means that he doesn't like the way Rock is just sitting back. Rock is very sure of himself - maybe too sure of himself. That could be what the editing is trying to show.
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#781518 - 07/24/07 03:55 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Snow Bunny
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I like the teaser when they showed Bonnie apparently screaming at Ramsey. She was running the line - he brought her some food and she screamed "I HAVE TO CHECK EVERY PIECE OF FOOD THAT GOES OUT - IS THAT THE BEST YOU'VE GOT??"

That should be fun to watch!! (Hope it was a real teaser!)
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#781528 - 07/24/07 03:59 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! B_F
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Originally Posted By: Bengalsfan
Originally Posted By: Sing A Little
Multiple times we have watched Rock sit back and watch a team mate struggle...is he going to do that with the chefs in his restaurant?


Are the chefs in his restaurant competing for ownership of his restaurant?

Remember, while they are on teams for this show, they are in competition with their teamates at the same time for a huge prize.


Ramsey is asking them to work as a team right now and Rock is not a team player. Ramsey can tell who has talent and attitude in this situation, and he has picked up on Rock's bad attitude.
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#781558 - 07/24/07 04:19 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Sing A Little
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Originally Posted By: Sing A Little
Originally Posted By: Bengalsfan
Originally Posted By: Sing A Little
Multiple times we have watched Rock sit back and watch a team mate struggle...is he going to do that with the chefs in his restaurant?


Are the chefs in his restaurant competing for ownership of his restaurant?

Remember, while they are on teams for this show, they are in competition with their teamates at the same time for a huge prize.


Ramsey is asking them to work as a team right now and Rock is not a team player. Ramsey can tell who has talent and attitude in this situation, and he has picked up on Rock's bad attitude.


One can be a team player, and yet not act as one in a situation where it is in your best interest to not promote your team. Sorry, but they are in a tough situation, and Rock should step up and lead a bit more, but at this point, that is going to be tough, since the girls have been on the same team all season and it's just him left. How do you lead a team where noone wants to be led?

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#781597 - 07/24/07 04:47 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! B_F
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But has he alienated his competitors. Last season the girl who didn't win had the talent, and an amazing palete, but alienated everyone else and ended up loosing. Talent does not equal leadership.

How do you lead a team where no one wants to be led? - You have to command respect. That is what Ramsey will be looking for.
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#781607 - 07/24/07 04:53 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Beige
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Bob
I like the teaser when they showed Bonnie apparently screaming at Ramsey. She was running the line - he brought her some food and she screamed "I HAVE TO CHECK EVERY PIECE OF FOOD THAT GOES OUT - IS THAT THE BEST YOU'VE GOT??"

That should be fun to watch!! (Hope it was a real teaser!)


Doc-last year part of one of the services included each of the contestants running the front (not sure the correct term) as Ramsey does-it is a test to see how they respond in that position-I don't remember if Ramsey cooked in their place, but it was pretty funny


I swear half of last nights show was bleeped out.....LOL
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#781621 - 07/24/07 05:05 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! TB 12
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How is it in your best interest not to work as a team when Ramsey is asking you to work as a team?

The bottom line is I haven't seen Rock demonstrate any characteristics the entire time (leadership, comradery, etc.) that show he is capable of running his own restaurant. Cooking is only one aspect of it, you need to be able to work with people, and pick up the slack where it's needed.

I'm excited for next week episode to see who really steps up and shows Ramsey what he is looking for.
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#781674 - 07/24/07 05:53 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Sing A Little
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Originally Posted By: Sing A Little
How is it in your best interest not to work as a team when Ramsey is asking you to work as a team?

The bottom line is I haven't seen Rock demonstrate any characteristics the entire time (leadership, comradery, etc.) that show he is capable of running his own restaurant. Cooking is only one aspect of it, you need to be able to work with people, and pick up the slack where it's needed.

I'm excited for next week episode to see who really steps up and shows Ramsey what he is looking for.


Bingo! You've hit the nail on the head Sing. There are times when you have to work together, and times when you can shine individually. Rock had plenty of time to shine individually when he was running a station by himself, now they all need to work together.

I wonder how the winners from the last two seasons are doing? From the clips in the very first show, the first winner now has a restaurant of his own. Last year's winner was still at the Red Rock Resort with what I seem to remember was a $1,000,000+ salary. Has anyone out there been to that restaurant?
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#781754 - 07/24/07 06:42 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Snow Bunny
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I haven't been to the restaurant, but I believe that Heather isn't even the Executive Chef at the Red Rock Restaurant, I think that she is a Sous Chef.
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#781757 - 07/24/07 06:43 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Sing A Little
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On the show last night she referred to Terra Rosa as "her restaurant".

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#781819 - 07/24/07 07:22 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Comp Guy No More
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She's a big liar! LOL

Here is a link from the Red Rock site:

Terra Rosa Info

For those to can't view it:
HEL*’S KITCHEN WINNER HEATHER WEST JOINS TERRA ROSSA TEAM!

Hel*’s Kitchen winner Heather West joins Terra Rossa restaurant as Senior Chef. She will be working under the leadership of Executive Room Chef Renato DePirro.
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#781825 - 07/24/07 07:26 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Sing A Little
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Interesting! I thought the deal was that they were given the restaurant to serve as executive chef! Hmmm....

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#781830 - 07/24/07 07:29 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Comp Guy No More
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Just what I was thinking - wonder if she couldn't measure up?
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#781839 - 07/24/07 07:35 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Snow Bunny
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Guess I was mistooken!

http://www.fox.com/hellskitchen/showinfo/

World-renowned chef GORDON RAMSAY is back for a third serving of the sizzling unscripted series [censored]’S KITCHEN. Ramsay is putting 12 new would-be restaurateurs on the chopping block for a chance to win the ultimate culinary prize -- the coveted title of Head Chef of a new fine Italian restaurant at the Green Valley Ranch Resort and Spa in Las Vegas.

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#781840 - 07/24/07 07:36 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Snow Bunny
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I believe that was the original deal, but I guess Red Rock didn't feel like she could handle it.

Michael ended up not going to London to train with Ramsey, started selling knives, and just recently opened his own place.
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#781844 - 07/24/07 07:38 PM Re: Hells Kitchen tonight!!! Sing A Little
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Red Rock is owned by Station Casinos, who also owns Green Valley...maybe they changed their minds.
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