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#746465 - 06/05/07 02:35 PM
Re: Dr. Death
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I say amen!!! Why is that we treat our dying pets with more dignity than our dying relatives? i'd say it's more that individuals can't treat themselves to the same dignity that they afforded their dying pets.
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#746466 - 06/05/07 02:35 PM
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I say amen!!! Why is that we treat our dying pets with more dignity than our dying relatives? I agree 100%!
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#746470 - 06/05/07 02:36 PM
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I felt he was wrongfully imprisoned in the first place. If people are suffering, they should be able to choose. Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life?
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#746472 - 06/05/07 02:36 PM
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life? the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong.
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#746485 - 06/05/07 02:41 PM
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life? the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong. But there is separation of church and state
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#746487 - 06/05/07 02:41 PM
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life? the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong. oh snap!
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#746488 - 06/05/07 02:41 PM
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My grandfather had a living will, he choose not to stay on machines that could save hime from dying. It was HIS choice and I see nothing wrong with it, hard to watch someone starve to death but again his choice
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#746489 - 06/05/07 02:43 PM
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life? the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong. oh snap! i was wondering how long it would take to bring God/the bible into this discussion.
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#746491 - 06/05/07 02:45 PM
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life? the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong. But there is separation of church and state There is?? I thought that was done away with as unconstitutional in the last few years??
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#746493 - 06/05/07 02:47 PM
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Why should the gov't have any say in whether or not someone wants assistance in taking their life? the bible says (obliquely) that it is wrong. Ok...but that's the bible and yes, people that follow the bible wouldnt take their own lives. The bible does not decide whether assisted suicide should be a crime so I dont really understand your point.....
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#746499 - 06/05/07 02:49 PM
Re: Dr. Death
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Oh - hold up....Could this be solved by Obama/Clinton 08?
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#746505 - 06/05/07 02:51 PM
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I was wondering how long it would take to bring God/the bible into this discussion really? what is the motivation for people who oppose doctor-assisted suicide? an entire side of the argument is grounded in the bible/God.
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#746507 - 06/05/07 02:53 PM
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The bible does not decide whether assisted suicide should be a crime so I dont really understand your point..... because people who feel that way want to make it so those in that position can even decide for themselves.
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#746512 - 06/05/07 02:56 PM
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QB, you beat me to it...
Years ago, my FIL had a massive stroke, no brain wave activity at all, machine was breathing for him. Doctors said we could leave him on that, possibly for years, and expect less than a .00000001% chance of recovery, basically in a state of suspended animation. Family made the decision to turn off the machine (which the hospital required us to do, they would not turn it off). He passed within minutes. Let me tell you, not a fun decision, not a fun time in our lives, but we did what we thought was correct.
Now, I know there is a difference between us making the decision for him (he clearly couldn't) and someone who is terminal making their own decision and receiving assistance from the doctor. ZBut my take is if you are legally of sound mind, you should be able to make this decision, if certain medical requirements are met (non-treatable disease, etc).
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#746517 - 06/05/07 02:58 PM
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I was wondering how long it would take to bring God/the bible into this discussion really? what is the motivation for people who oppose doctor-assisted suicide? an entire side of the argument is grounded in the bible/God. i didn't say whether i agreed or not. i'm remaining switzerland in this discussion. i was just commenting on how long it took to bring in god.
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#746530 - 06/05/07 03:09 PM
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I was wondering how long it would take to bring God/the bible into this discussion really? what is the motivation for people who oppose doctor-assisted suicide? an entire side of the argument is grounded in the bible/God. Ron, if people who opposed assisted suicide based their belief on a Platonic (as in Greek philospher Plato) that all life has value and should be preserved at all cost, would you hold that belief in the same contempt? What if it was based on academic studies that demonstrated a correlation between patients who chose assisted suicide and higher divorce rates in families left behind? Would you still scorn that belief?
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