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#1198672 - 06/10/09 03:21 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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#1198676 - 06/10/09 03:25 PM
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so the way you were raised, your religion, your education, etc. would could lead you to a different "truth" as to what makes a square a square? exactly
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#1198682 - 06/10/09 03:28 PM
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AAHH- I've missed this And this has missed you - where ya been? working my little tail offf!! new job AP/AR book keeping payroll for a smaller company
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#1198695 - 06/10/09 03:32 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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Yes. However, just like apples are fruit but all fruit are not apples, all truths are not facts. i'm not following... you've just stated 2 truths: 1) apples are fruit 2) all fruit are not apples i must just be dense
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#1198696 - 06/10/09 03:32 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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Not necesarily. TRUTH: Earth is round (basically) FACT (circa 1400's): Earth is flat Basic truths don't change; facts can.
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#1198698 - 06/10/09 03:34 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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Not necesarily. TRUTH: Earth is round (basically) FACT (circa 1400's): Earth is flatBasic truths don't change; facts can. but i thought that was just a "theory"... wasn't a fact until it was proven/disproven isn't this fun?
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#1198703 - 06/10/09 03:36 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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Ok, so we're talking 'truth' vs 'fact'. Fact is a square is a square. Perspective (back to your core beliefs) influences whether you believe what BO is preaching is the truth or not. All I'm saying is I agree with the concept of perspective influencing what one believes to be the truth. I agree with Truff. You cannot dispute that a square is a square.....it is a fact. On the other hand, as a Christian I believe there is a God and only ONE God....that is the truth to ME based on my beliefs and upbringing. However, for those of other denominations (or those who are athiests) that is NOT the truth. Since it cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt by us human beings, I suppose, it cannot be a fact. NOTE: NOT trying to make this about religion, just used it as an example.
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#1198706 - 06/10/09 03:36 PM
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#1198710 - 06/10/09 03:42 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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Not necesarily. TRUTH: Earth is round (basically) FACT (circa 1400's): Earth is flat Basic truths don't change; facts can. I'd say you have them switched, P.B. But, here's what the world reknowned source Wiki says: Truth The meaning of the word truth extends from honesty, good faith, and sincerity in general, to agreement with fact or reality in particular. The term has no single definition about which the majority of professional philosophers and scholars agree. Various theories of truth continue to be debated. There are differing claims on such questions as what constitutes truth; how to define and identify truth; the roles that revealed and acquired knowledge play; and whether truth is subjective, relative, objective, or absolute. This article introduces the various perspectives and claims, both today and throughout history. So, if the majority of scholars and philosophers can't agree, you can bet a bunch of bankers never will either.
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#1198732 - 06/10/09 03:56 PM
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y'all are being so serious!
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#1198787 - 06/10/09 04:25 PM
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#1198793 - 06/10/09 04:29 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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Snopes is not a valid source, it is run by left wing nuts. Try again.
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#1198798 - 06/10/09 04:32 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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Ok, perhaps my analogies will straigthen things out for all of you:
Fact - I am currently employed Fact - My hair is brown (after grecian) Truth - I am MAD DIESEL and Drop Dead Gorgeous HUNK Truth - The Pittsburgh Steelers are the greatest sports franchise in history.
Do you understand the stark differences? If not then: fact - you just don't get it truth - you need an open-hand italian slap in the mouth
Do you agree with my facts and truth? If no then: fact - you have no taste and need help truth - you will get both an open-hand slap and a backhand across your cakehole when I see you. fact - If you are a woman, you will agree once you lay eyes on me. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH!!!
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#1198808 - 06/10/09 04:36 PM
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Ok, perhaps my analogies will straigthen things out for all of you:
Fact - I am currently employed Fact - My hair is brown (after grecian) Truth - I am MAD DIESEL and Drop Dead Gorgeous HUNK Truth - The Pittsburgh Steelers are the greatest sports franchise in history.
Do you understand the stark differences? If not then: fact - you just don't get it truth - you need an open-hand italian slap in the mouth
Do you agree with my facts and truth? If no then: fact - you have no taste and need help truth - you will get both an open-hand slap and a backhand across your cakehole when I see you. fact - If you are a woman, you will agree once you lay eyes on me. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! If you want the truth, PM me. I met him in person.
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#1198818 - 06/10/09 04:40 PM
Re: Obama's approval ratings continue to drop
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Ok, perhaps my analogies will straigthen things out for all of you:
Fact - I am currently employed Fact - My hair is brown (after grecian) Truth - I am MAD DIESEL and Drop Dead Gorgeous HUNK Truth - The Pittsburgh Steelers are the greatest sports franchise in history.
Do you understand the stark differences? If not then: fact - you just don't get it truth - you need an open-hand italian slap in the mouth
Do you agree with my facts and truth? If no then: fact - you have no taste and need help truth - you will get both an open-hand slap and a backhand across your cakehole when I see you. fact - If you are a woman, you will agree once you lay eyes on me. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH!!! If you want the truth, PM me. I met him in person. You know you thought the same too, Don't tell an untruth now. so basically...in your example...a truth is a "matter of opinion" (from some woman that clearly must be drunk) (you know i ♥ you) You are compelled to. And that's a fact!!!
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