#2202313 - 01/08/19 05:04 PM
Re: Pay scale for BSA Officer
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2018 Thread reviver here, hmm, now I'm the 2019 revivier: As you an applicant you should know your approximate worth. Any job I've ever applied for I knew what was an acceptable range for compensation, depending on salary and the type of bonus. Thanks for throwing out some numbers. Also wondering: ave you changed jobs or applied for a job in the past 5 years? There's this absurd attitude right now that an applicant isn't supposed to know how much a job pays until way too late in the application process, like it's some kind of state secret, when really it's essential info that would inform an applicant of whether he or she would even be interested in applying in the first place. Also, this thread contains a dead link to a survey, here's a more recent one from the same source: https://www.crowe.com/news/crowe-bank-compensation-and-benefits-survey-2018
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#2202320 - 01/08/19 05:14 PM
Re: Pay scale for BSA Officer
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2019 reviver: P.S. So, what I meant by that is, sure I can spend 5 hours trying to formulate my own guestimate as to how much I think a position is worth. Usually that must be done before applying, because so many places now require you to input a number into their online application, and their "salary requirement" field is mandatory, meaning you can't submit the application without stating a number. And when one app let me put in $1 one time, they just called me and asked me verbally for the figure, and wouldn't schedule a meeting without hearing the figure first. A friend on the inside had warned me that their shop routinely threw out apps where the number was too high. But rather than just telling applicants what it pays, they make you fill out a one-hour application form online, and take a test, then name your salary requirement, just so they can glance at the salary number you stated and toss your application to the side. That's the job market these days, from my perspective as a qualified applicant with a high salary expectation.
But when a position is being posted, the onus of disclosing the one single most basic and fundamental incentive for applying - salary - should be on the company posting the listing, not on the numerous individuals interested in applying.
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#2202356 - 01/08/19 07:36 PM
Re: Pay scale for BSA Officer
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i have never refused to interview a candidate solely on the salary they are asking for, and if you are highly qualified as you state, perhaps you are being denied interviews as you are applying for positions that are more entry level than upper tier. or your qualifications are not in line with what they are expecting. are you assuming your salary is what is keeping you from getting an interview, or have you specifically been told that? because in the job market today, regardless of why they don't want to interview you, my experience is you just don't get a call, period. they don't call and say "sorry, salary too high, we are not interested." headhunter is a good option, as JJ noted. of course, the annual revival of this thread may actually one day work in your favor
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#2202452 - 01/09/19 05:45 PM
Re: Pay scale for BSA Officer
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are you assuming your salary is what is keeping you from getting an interview, or have you specifically been told that? That was addressed in my previous post: 2019 reviver: ...when one app let me put in $1 one time, they just called me and asked me verbally for the figure, and wouldn't schedule a meeting without hearing the figure first. A friend on the inside had warned me that their shop routinely threw out apps where the number was too high. But rather than just telling applicants what it pays, they make you...name your salary requirement, just so they can glance at the salary number you stated and toss your application to the side. It was just one time for me, where I was told that if your figure is too high, they shred the application. Plus my friend just had the experience of a bank withholding salary info until after the interview, then when they called him for a second interview, he asked if that meant the salary figure he named was being considered or had been accepted, they were shocked and offended, and the second interview didn't happen, all because he dared to confirm the salary was even within his range of numbers he might possibly accept. Thanks for the rest of your post Hap - you were helpful, as always. For those of you here who have posted complaints in this thread, I just want to say that I find it harmful and troll-like for frequent posters to chime in with meta commentary (complaining that a thread was revived, rather than answering or saying something relevant), or with criticisms of the people who post questions in these forums, and general chit-chat like that which is off-topic and an attempt to hijack or derail the Q&A process for people who are honestly just seeking help. If this was reddit or almost any forum other than BOL, that sort of negative "comment" and bullying, unhelpful behavior would have resulted in the poster being banned from the forum. Just sayin'.
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#2202707 - 01/11/19 02:43 PM
Re: Pay scale for BSA Officer
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i believe the comments by a number of posters are that information of this nature is normally of little to no benefit because there are too many variables to consider, and without knowing very many specifics about the poster (location, experience, background, education, bank size, target bank size, current salary, hopeful salary, size of bank(s), number of staff, specific job duties, corporate and officer title, just to name a few), then the answer really does not provide anything. I certainly did not see anything that was troll like, nor any attempt to hijack the thread.
What i did see was several versions of the straight answer that nothing you will get here is likely to be of value for this type of a question. Since it appears you want someone to give you an answer that agrees with or validates your summation, counter responses appears to have made you decide you were being trolled, which i don't believe is happening.
For examples of trolling on BOL, see the "nfl cheaters" thread in the watercooler.
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#2202751 - 01/11/19 05:09 PM
Re: Pay scale for BSA Officer
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i believe the comments by a number of posters are that information of this nature is normally of little to no benefit because there are too many variables to consider, and without knowing very many specifics about the poster (location, experience, background, education, bank size, target bank size, current salary, hopeful salary, size of bank(s), number of staff, specific job duties, corporate and officer title, just to name a few), then the answer really does not provide anything. I certainly did not see anything that was troll like, nor any attempt to hijack the thread.
What i did see was several versions of the straight answer that nothing you will get here is likely to be of value for this type of a question. Since it appears you want someone to give you an answer that agrees with or validates your summation, counter responses appears to have made you decide you were being trolled, which i don't believe is happening.
For examples of trolling on BOL, see the "nfl cheaters" thread in the watercooler. ^ This
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